Episode 89

American Groove - #89 Marlboro Baby Food

Man, do you remember the days when Gerber baby food handed out free engraved spoons? No? Well, get ready for a nostalgic trip into the weird and wonderful world of 90s marketing gimmicks. This week, we go down memory lane. From Gerber's silver spoons, to Marlboro's reward programs. That made you wonder if smoking could win you a computer. It's a chaotic ride of odd cultural taboos, with an added twist. Sprinkled with Karissa's thoughts on Ethan Hawke, Emma Stone acting at another level. Karissa still has Gerber baby spoon, to this day fyi.

But it’s not all nostalgia and laughs. We also dive deep into reflections on life’s struggles. From job frustrations to finding those fleeting moments of joy. Like the peace of cooking or the occasional spa day. With a dash of existential musings, and a pinch of absurdity. We bring you another unfiltered, stoner-style sesh that’s as relatable as it is ridiculous. So light one up, kick back, for the ultimate high.

The host of American groove is Karissa Andrews. A licensed aesthetician, makeup artist and lover of pugs. The best part is that you can check out her work on Instagram: 

https://www.velvetearthshop.com/

We have a magical link below with all our socials and handle so you can find us on your favorite pod spot.

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Karissa's name for the week is "카리사"

Transcript

00:00.00

Lost in the Groove Podcast

talking about before this whole like fucking fiasco and all this bullshit happened. Um, what were we talking about? Cause I can't remember. And then you're like, no, I remember. Now I remember you like brought up this weird fucking shit about like Gerber free silver spoons.

00:16.82

Lost in the Groove Podcast

All right.

00:16.94

Karissa

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17.14

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And like you're still think it's weird as shit.

00:18.09

Karissa

Gerber baby food. They used to give you a free, free baby spoon.

00:24.33

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I'm thinking real hot.

00:24.58

Karissa

It is, it was like a late eighties, early nineties thing where if you mailed in to Gerber babies and you told them the name and birth date of your baby,

00:40.76

Karissa

they would engrave it on a silver spoon and mail it back to your house. It was during the same time that like you could like collect a whole bunch of like little tickets off of like a cereal box and then mail them all in and then get like a prize. um But they used to do that a lot. You do these like mail in for a prize thing.

01:04.48

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Sorry. I don't know. I think it's still weird as shit. OK, I don't know. Like there was just a weird ass time where like companies just be at like throwing out just free stuff.

01:20.29

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't know. Like Marlboro's.

01:20.64

Karissa

I think that's great.

01:22.15

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, like Marlboro's had a program where like you could collect points, you could like buy it at five thousand dollar like computer if you just smoked a shit load.

01:31.57

Karissa

That seems like they're trying to coax people into smoking.

01:32.44

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And

01:36.66

Karissa

They're like, we'll pay you if you smoke.

01:36.74

Lost in the Groove Podcast

In a way, yeah, it's like just... Yeah, if you just buy more Marlboro Reds, like, just keep it coming.

01:46.35

Karissa

Oh, man. um I don't know, but.

01:51.29

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Weird-ass fucking times, yes.

01:53.68

Karissa

yeah Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, there's a there's a baby spoon with my birthday um engraved on it and it was free.

02:03.94

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Your birthday will always be ingrained in my brain. And I said this so many times, it's like November 6th.

02:09.19

Karissa

Yeah.

02:13.58

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I got fired. I got fucked up. But hey, it was Chris's birthday.

02:20.64

Karissa

It's also Ethan Hawke's birthday.

02:23.02

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, surprisingly enough. I do not really know who that is, but I will go wherever the wind will take me.

02:31.54

Karissa

Somebody knows who Ethan Hawke is.

02:33.97

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Somebody does, definitely, there's gotta be.

02:35.53

Karissa

He's Ethan Hawke is like a he was like a heartthrob boy from the 90s.

02:42.21

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Of course.

02:43.93

Karissa

But he has the same birthday as me. Same with ah Emma Stone. We share the same birthday.

02:49.67

Lost in the Groove Podcast

The difference is like, i'm I'm assuming like with Ethan Hawke, this is just my assumption. Like at this point, he'd be like middle age, hairline receding, beer belly.

02:57.01

Karissa

Yeah, not too bad. No. Honestly, he's pretty alright.

03:02.20

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, okay. Turned out pretty cute.

03:05.50

Karissa

Took good care of himself. He was married to Huma Thurman.

03:08.58

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, wow. Okay. Damn.

03:11.34

Karissa

Yeah, she had two of his kids.

03:13.59

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Jesus. Well, I wish those kids the best of luck. They're going to need it. I was going to tell you.

03:20.71

Karissa

Huma Thurman's daughter looks exactly like Huma Thurman.

03:21.30

Lost in the Groove Podcast

but

03:23.57

Karissa

Like I was like, whoa, okay.

03:25.51

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I mean,

03:28.39

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, it's kind of ironic, you know, because you'd only think like to be one, but then there's two. And then, you know, like if the one dies, there's still another.

03:37.24

Karissa

What? You gotta have two kids in case one dies? Is that what you just said?

03:40.99

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, kinda, like, you know, it's kinda like, cause look, there's always like what ifs and possibilities. You know, if you fucking die, and then your other kid dies, like, that's it, it's over, okay?

03:53.93

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So at least like with two kids, you got two chances, alright? You have two chances if fucking shit goes down.

04:02.75

Karissa

You might have one successful kid if you have two.

04:03.13

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Two.

04:06.08

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mhmm, you might have one that's a fuckup, but one's a success.

04:07.24

Karissa

Do you, did you ever watch a Walk the Line?

04:14.74

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, I know what walk this way though is. Walk this way.

04:17.32

Karissa

No.

04:18.97

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

04:18.93

Karissa

Walk the Line is like the Dewey Cox story where they make fun of, ah no, Walk Hard.

04:30.57

Karissa

Have you seen Walk Hard?

04:32.84

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

04:32.79

Karissa

Walk Hard is a comedic, like,

04:35.81

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I love how you changed it and then you would assume that I would know immediately.

04:38.11

Karissa

Well, because Walk the Line, Walk the Line is actually a movie about Johnny Cash and Walk the Line was a really, really big deal a long time ago.

04:39.72

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, but no.

04:50.73

Karissa

Like I would say like:

04:54.66

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Very specific gears, yes.

04:57.12

Karissa

ah Reese Witherspoon won the Academy Award. Joaquin Phoenix played ah Johnny Cash.

05:00.51

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Of course.

05:03.73

Karissa

It was a really big deal, that movie. um And so then there was a comedic movie made off of it called ah the Dewey Cox story called Walk Hard.

05:15.92

Karissa

And I highly suggest both these movies to anybody. um You got to watch the the real one.

05:20.85

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Double feature, you know, you watch the real one first,

05:22.25

Karissa

You got to watch the real one first and then you watch the funny one.

05:24.30

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And then the fake one. I'm sorry, funny one. ah Second.

05:28.16

Karissa

It is fake. It's like, it's like scary movie, you know, how they like make like a parody movie of the movie and then you like laugh at it. Well, in the Dewey Cox story and much like in this because they're making fun of the Johnny Cash story. So Walk the Line is like a biography story of Johnny Cash. um And in Johnny Cash's life, Johnny Cash and his brother get in like a near-death experience and his brother dies um at a young age. So Johnny Cash's brother died when he was little.

06:04.60

Karissa

And his father is a real asshole. um And the the kid that died was like very religious, very well behaved, was like very much like the the dad's favorite. um And he was supposed to become like a pastor. And like in the movie, it's always kind of hinted at that the ah father might have possibly liked it if it was Johnny Cash that died because Johnny Cash was trouble. you know He's like a troubled kid. He's the bad kid.

06:43.93

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't give a fuck what kind of kid he was.

06:44.00

Karissa

like

06:45.73

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Let me tell you, that motherfucker knew how to play a guitar, and he...

06:45.83

Karissa

He's successful. I know, but like that was not an accepted thing in a religious family. like He's a very naughty boy. so like In the movie, like the real movie, they always kind of like allude that like the dad was like really unsupportive of Johnny Cash.

07:02.98

Karissa

But then in the comedic movie, they just go as far as to have the dad just be like, the wrong kid died. And it's the funniest thing in the world, like

07:14.78

Lost in the Groove Podcast

that is hard core.

07:16.99

Karissa

It is so funny. Like when you see it, like when the dad's just like, yeah, but the wrong kid died. Like the way he says it is so funny.

07:27.16

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's kind of like It's kind of like in the Big Lebowski when he's literally saying like, I'm Shomer Shabbos, all right? And it's like, first of all, people are like thinking it's ironic and hilarious, but like people don't realize that it's like a literal like, fuck you. It's like, listen, I will go as far as like, even though my fucking ex-wife, I'm not married to, like I will still use the Shabbos as an excuse to get a fucking heart on. The point I'm trying to make over here is like kind of connection is like we're,

07:58.67

Lost in the Groove Podcast

the dad will go as far as to be like damn wrong kid died shit is so fucking funny but you you get my twist though with the big lebowski because that fucking shit as a jew was hilarious like

08:06.85

Karissa

It's supposed to be funny. I think it's funny we.

08:21.75

Karissa

Yeah, the big Lebowski is incredible, like we could do an entire episode just about the big Lebowski.

08:22.67

Lost in the Groove Podcast

he he

08:28.23

Lost in the Groove Podcast

We kind of did a little while back.

08:29.78

Karissa

Have we already done it before? I know we are stoners, so like it kind of makes sense, you know.

08:31.81

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I think so.

08:35.94

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I mean, we've covered like all the.

08:39.16

Karissa

i went to a I went to a big Lebowski like screening where it was like everybody get together and watch the big Lebowski and it was like a whole bunch of people dressed like the dude.

08:39.49

Lost in the Groove Podcast

All the twah and the twang and the twoe and the twee.

08:57.41

Karissa

Like there I saw just like tons and tons of guys like yeah the white t-shirt yeah the dude

09:00.49

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, the bathrobe and the slippers with the sunglasses. Yeah. Yeah. the And it's always like they'll fucking like buy the white tea in Walmart for $4.99 and then go to the paint supply and just put fucking shit all over the shirt.

09:16.75

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Okay. to Make like look, look all dirty and stuff.

09:18.86

Karissa

It's that sweater though, that sweater, like there's only like one or two people that have like the exact one. Everybody else has like one that looks kind of like it, but like, yeah, no, it's like the stripes and the little pockets and like, the dude is, the dude, dude, like the dude, he's got it all figured out, man.

09:28.97

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Not exact, yeah. The dude.

09:43.49

Karissa

Like, fuck, that's exactly what I want.

09:46.07

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It all started, it was all about a carpet, bro.

09:51.41

Karissa

Yeah, but before the carpet, everything was damn good.

09:55.65

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I mean, if you want to go as far as like getting the same car that he had in the same condition, bro, you drive that thing. You are a safety hazard to society. OK, I'm just saying. But there are them hardcore motherfuckers that will be doing that shit. And you know that girl. You know that, right?

10:21.02

Karissa

i don't know what you're talking about anymore

10:30.51

Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah

10:30.83

Karissa

really not following what

10:32.35

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, I've talked, okay, like, dudeism is like a real thing, okay? Like, people take this, like, real hardcore, okay? Same thing with Johnny Cash, okay? Like, let's be real with ourselves right now.

10:44.68

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Johnny Cash fans are not just Johnny Cash fans.

10:46.66

Karissa

I don't know what you're talking about anymore.

10:49.10

Lost in the Groove Podcast

They're Johnny Cash fans, all right? These are motherfuckers that if you shit on Johnny Cash, they will come for you. All right, with, but follow me here, all right.

11:02.87

Karissa

Okay.

11:03.16

Lost in the Groove Podcast

We have with dudeism, okay, where these dudes that that dress up as the dude go as far as to not only dress up and be like him on a day-to-day basis, okay, right, but go as far as be driving a jalopy like that motherfucker and be,

11:16.12

Karissa

I mean, I would fucking love that, but I have to pay bills like.

11:26.36

Karissa

They even got the the car to go with it, okay.

11:28.70

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, and yeah, okay, and that is a safety hazard to society. Let me express myself one more time.

11:40.49

Karissa

that they've gone too far.

11:42.07

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Way too motherfucking far, like, bruh, the dude isn't about representation. The dude is about inner,

11:53.63

Lost in the Groove Podcast

san like an inner sanctuary. It's your inner,

12:00.80

Lost in the Groove Podcast

what It's what makes you you.

12:04.44

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Like, what do you stand for? You stand for you or you stand for somebody else?

12:08.38

Karissa

Man, I've been so pissed off recently. like

12:11.73

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, I know, even like getting up to this point to be able to fucking record that literally took 45 minutes. I get you.

12:18.82

Karissa

No, it's just like ever since they fired my coworker, I've just been pissed as fuck. Like my inner peace has just been like wrecked, you know?

12:30.78

Lost in the Groove Podcast

You need one of those testosterone injections. I know,

12:34.29

Karissa

I feel like that'd be like the opposite of what I need.

12:38.10

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I know, I'm just fucking with you.

12:39.86

Karissa

I feel like that'd make me like more angry.

12:43.22

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Or you wanna go even further? You buy the Ben and Jerry's ice cream.

12:49.58

Karissa

Mwah.

12:50.85

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

12:50.82

Karissa

That's right.

12:52.70

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Then go to the cookies aisle and you buy the bougie cookies.

12:59.10

Karissa

I tell you, it's not strong enough. like That's where I've gotten. I've gotten to the point where like everything's so shitty that like there's nothing like nice enough to like even it out. like The ice cream isn't cutting it. The bowl isn't cutting it. I don't know. Earlier when we were singing, that was working. But like that's what it takes, man. like That's too much.

13:22.58

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't know, I found like um found kind of like a piece with almost cooking these days because

13:27.64

Karissa

I wish, that's the thing is that nothing will let me do anything that I want to do. Like this is the majority of what I get to do that I want to do. And it's ah scary to sit here and complain about never getting to do what I want to do because then they'll fire me. And then I'll really just have tons of time of doing whatever I want to do, but I won't have any money so I won't be able to do anything. I don't know.

13:55.05

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's the two sides of the, the two sides of the sword.

13:59.91

Karissa

I have no time to cook for myself, like I legitimately can't.

14:02.69

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, I'm not, girl, I'm not telling you you have to cook for yourself.

14:05.77

Karissa

I would like to though, like but they've taken my time.

14:06.17

Lost in the Groove Podcast

whatm what what What I'm saying, when when when I have the time for me, when I have the time to be able to, like I found this enjoyment of like being able to make quick meals.

14:19.45

Lost in the Groove Podcast

and like being able to like put all the stuff together, my by-self. But there's also those times where like I find enjoyment helping out others. What I mean by that is, is that even though like I don't have a lot of money, I try to help out when I can. And it's kinda like, I don't expect anything from anybody, I just like to do it. And that kinda, you know, that's something that I like to do. But what I'm trying,

14:48.55

Lost in the Groove Podcast

point out, we all have that bleh, we all have that no energy, no time, no flex. But there are those things that we can do, whether it for be ourselves, something that we want to do, that we have the ability, we have the control of.

15:12.03

Lost in the Groove Podcast

and can kind of give us that boost. You know, as they say on the track, the nitrous.

15:22.45

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't know why I did that, but I thought it was necessary.

15:24.74

Karissa

No, it's okay. I watched a whole bunch of Fast and Furious movies over the past couple weeks, so...

15:31.27

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, the nitrous shit, by the way, in Fast and Furious is completely unrealistic. We could talk off the air and I can kind of explain how that works. Because what they do in the movies is complete garbage. Yeah, but anyway, sorry.

15:45.83

Lost in the Groove Podcast

wow

15:47.18

Karissa

you're good. I feel like... I have been so completely drained and depleted by all the assholes running everything around me that it's hard for me to do as good as I would naturally do without them fucking everything up.

15:55.33

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, no.

16:09.18

Karissa

um So that is extra draining on top of the additional draining. um So that's my master complaint for today.

16:19.34

Lost in the Groove Podcast

master.

16:20.95

Karissa

Yeah, complaint above all complaints is that everybody's an asshole.

16:23.78

Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah We don't know what that what is.

16:26.81

Karissa

And ah what is the the thing that I wanted to say a lot recently? I would rather die, but then I'd rather die than what?

16:40.99

Karissa

Yeah, I don't know, but for some reason that's been on like the tip of my tongue. Like I'd rather die.

16:46.36

Lost in the Groove Podcast

But then

16:46.51

Karissa

I think it's because I wish that I had any authority and I realized that maybe the only authority I ever even possibly have is that I'm alive or not.

16:59.29

Karissa

And that might be the only piece of authority that I have at all. Like I think I actually have nothing No power of any kind whatsoever. I believe absolutely every single bit of power has been completely stripped from me at this point in my life. Like, what do I have control over? Absolutely nothing. I'm completely owned in all ways.

17:28.34

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't think that we as people need to be control of things. you know i I think that most things in life are temporary, whether that be more of a ah permanent type of temporary, sure, but people come and people go.

17:36.52

Karissa

I would like to have some freedom or I at least liked it when I had the illusion of it.

17:55.41

Lost in the Groove Podcast

lives around us change. Yeah, you're right. Like our control and ability to do things are sometimes very much limited. But I think that's just the factor of living.

18:06.78

Lost in the Groove Podcast

And yeah, you do bring up a great point. Like the only authority you kind of really have is being alive.

18:13.97

Karissa

and so

18:14.40

Lost in the Groove Podcast

But as life goes on, we have those abilities to have different types of control.

18:15.03

Karissa

That's it.

18:24.63

Karissa

No.

18:26.87

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I think so. I disagree.

18:28.31

Karissa

I like zero. Like I don't have any control over anything.

18:35.77

Lost in the Groove Podcast

That may be now but that may not be the same thing next year or the year following or in five years from now.

18:41.29

Karissa

I kind of feel like it's just like sometimes you're under the illusion that you're not just like some work slave like for the United States.

18:52.36

Lost in the Groove Podcast

This is why, like, particularly even for myself, the attitude around my classmates is, and even some of my instructors, is you go into... Okay, and I'm gonna get a little bit political, and this is the reason why, but I'm not gonna dig too deep into this. There's a...

19:14.76

Lost in the Groove Podcast

this thing where you as a technician, you can go to to trade school, such as the one I'm doing right now. And then you go to work in a dealership for about three years or four years, you get all of your certifications, become a master technician, you pay off all of your debt, you have a good salary. Once you're finished that the way that Trump's campaign and basically like government right now would allow for a person such as myself to be able to open up my own independent shop, be able to have my own business working on cars, and then allow me to have like those other flexibilities.

19:56.00

Karissa

how How would you pay rent?

19:59.57

Lost in the Groove Podcast

So it used to be where independent shops used to get benefits from the government. So like there's certain types of grants, not grants, like loans that you could sign up for.

20:12.39

Lost in the Groove Podcast

and Usually, like depending on when you're a master technician and you're working in a dealership, well like one of the things is to gather up money to be able to put down for a down payment. The problem that has a rise because of recent government and the issues that we've been having in this country is it's become so expensive for people to have an independent shop.

20:36.45

Karissa

Yeah, it's the rent.

20:38.69

Lost in the Groove Podcast

the rent, the cost, the expenses, the insurance, the taxes.

20:41.15

Karissa

The taxes.

20:43.66

Lost in the Groove Podcast

That's what I was saying earlier. If the taxes go down, the percentages go down.

20:48.72

Karissa

It's the property tax, though. That's not going to change.

20:51.57

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, property tax is not going to change. However, if you have it can be very wretched, but it also depends where you're living, too, because

20:54.50

Karissa

Property taxes is wretched.

21:00.53

Karissa

and I've looked like, I mean, like, is it a lot worse here than anywhere else? I mean, I figured this is pretty basic property taxes around here are fucking terrible on like, like, uh, stuff that isn't residential.

21:16.70

Karissa

Like if it, if it's like retail or it's like, you know, commercial, the property tax is like, I mean, we're talking like 50,000 a year.

21:16.88

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

21:27.97

Lost in the Groove Podcast

it It honestly, again, it all it all depends. You're right. You bring up a really good point.

21:33.24

Karissa

maybe even like $100,000 a year for the property tax.

21:33.77

Lost in the Groove Podcast

It

21:39.61

Lost in the Groove Podcast

i I know for myself that is where I want to get to and like I've come to the kind of realization of this. I want to be an artistic person, but at the same time, like there I need to be able to get myself financially stable. and One of those ways is taking something that I like to do, that I know that I can make money off of, that can feed out into other things that I want to be able to do as well, such as doing this and among other things. so

22:10.02

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't have control of those things happening exactly the way that I want them to. Okay? I don't know what is exactly going to happen when I finish school around this time next year. I don't know. But what I do know is, is those are kind of the places that I kind i want to get to. And those can completely change. What I'm trying to get at is, even for yourself,

22:38.85

Lost in the Groove Podcast

you're in a position right now where you don't have a lot of control, which is understandable. I mean, it is. That is the situation, but you're going to reach another point where you're going to have.

22:55.71

Lost in the Groove Podcast

not Basically, you're not going to be in the same position.

22:58.21

Karissa

but

22:59.14

Lost in the Groove Podcast

Does that make sense?

23:00.33

Karissa

but but It's all the same thing. Just me doing what everybody else wants me to do. Like I do what everybody else wants me to do so much that I've completely lost touch with what I want. That's how much I'm not allowed to do what I want to do is that I don't even remember what I want to do anymore.

23:27.14

Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, I decided, I told, they have the Lord of the Rings um anime that's coming out next Friday. So I told one of my classmates, he's, he's a Marines vet, sweet guy, his name is Enrique. I, I said, hey, he loves anime, I was like, hey, they're coming out with the Lord of the Rings anime, you down? He's like, hell yeah. And I'm like, you know what?

23:52.70

Lost in the Groove Podcast

I'm gonna have one Friday, I'll spend a little bit of money. I'm gonna go out with some of my classmates. um I'm just using that and as an example of like, I get where you're coming from. But like, whenever I get like those moments to like be able to just like, do something that I want to do. And I know like other people in my again, in my instance, other people that I can connect with to I gravitate towards it.

24:18.43

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Even though, like, I know I can't really afford that shit. I don't really have the time. Like, there are other things that I can be doing. Damn, sometimes you need that.

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You feel me?

24:29.14

Karissa

Yeah, no, yeah, it's like how i I do my nails, like I get my nails done.

24:29.76

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You do. You need that shit.

24:34.48

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um Right? You know, you get some me time, you know, it's like a nice quiet place. It's relaxing.

24:44.59

Karissa

Hmm.

24:47.14

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You look forward to, come on. You do.

24:48.98

Karissa

Oh, I like getting my nails done.

24:49.85

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You look forward to it.

24:52.59

Karissa

Yeah, Louie, come on.

24:55.88

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You used to tell me how much you used to love those all day spa places.

25:01.28

Karissa

Yeah, I love going to Koreatown.

25:04.88

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That shit sounds bomb.

25:07.14

Karissa

Yeah, I know, but it's like, you know, over 100,000 miles from here.

25:12.34

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True. What kind of spawns do they have out there?

25:17.91

Karissa

I just can't help but think that everything's a lot worse than it was there. Like, it was like I thought that things were bad And that's why I needed to leave. And then now I'm here and it's worse than it was out there.

25:42.36

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I think it's worse in a different way, but there are a lot of problems with LA.

25:53.75

Karissa

No.

25:54.76

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I think living in a place where there's 8 million people can be a little a little much on a person. you know i i'm I'm coming from somebody like I grew up in the country.

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like I grew up in upstate New York, like kind of upstate New York. but group in the suburbs, you know, and I've been I've been living in big cities and they're like different, worst, like experiences from both.

26:24.83

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Does that make sense from like small populations to large?

26:27.49

Karissa

At least I could be outside.

26:31.61

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Yeah, it's cold as hell in Iowa, honey. Like, you're in the land lock center of the United States.

26:37.42

Karissa

tundra i don't know what i'm doing like i don't i i just want to like smack myself like i just want to like like i want to hurt myself for moving here like i'm so mad at myself for having done this

26:44.23

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What you mean?

26:59.22

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I think. my god oh cut you um but I'm sorry, I just keep on staring at this adorable dog that like is barely coming up on camera because he's so fucking dark.

27:14.19

Karissa

My dark boy.

27:15.81

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Oh my god. He's so cute. Um, you know something I said, I kind of felt the same way like moving down here to Florida. Because to be honest, like I don't really have very much out here. I mean, I have my mom. And I've met some some people along the way. And I have made connections. But I have like no peace down here.

27:47.04

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I literally like I'm at the point right now where I'm not even working.

27:48.49

Karissa

yeah i think like i don't i don't

27:51.11

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I'm like paycheck to paycheck every week and I'm driving over 100 miles every day. I'm exhausted. I'm beyond exhausted and like.

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I don't have any time to myself. like My time is everybody's time. like My time is my school time. My time is to my mom's time. My time is my grandparents' time. like I don't have time. like My version of time is like staying late at school to hang out with my classmates.

28:20.59

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okay that is my me time. All right, like, my land my life is is is sad and pathetic. Like, yay, I'm in trade school, but it's sad and pathetic.

28:33.19

Karissa

and know I know it was so annoying like today at school or work we were supposed to like say something about ourselves and like you know and then like our name

28:43.73

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gi me ah Give me the rubber cock on the table and let me suck it.

28:47.68

Karissa

I'm like, the fuck? Like, my name is Carissa, I'm here.

28:49.72

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Loop it up.

28:53.32

Karissa

Like, no one gives a fuck about my personal life. Like, you guys don't care at all. Like, you don't care if I'm alive or dead. Like, don't even act like you want to know what I do with my free time.

29:05.42

Karissa

You don't respect my free time. You text me while I'm away from work? Like, no. e I'm not talking to you.

29:16.67

Karissa

I'm not pretending to be your happy little bitch either. Fucking hate this.

29:21.73

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could always shove a nail up their ass.

29:23.75

Karissa

I wish.

29:26.79

Karissa

Fucking sick as stupid bitches.

29:27.36

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oh Well, hey, you know, sometimes the brawn, the real is the most important, but like, I mean,

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I know that it is going to be a really bumpy ride. you know like I know that the dealership environment is probably not something that I'm like mentally prepared for, but I know what I signed up for, I know what I want to do, and I know how I'm going to get there.

29:58.65

Karissa

Yeah and you should definitely always try.

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and

30:02.06

Karissa

I'm just like and I think maybe you could do it and even if it doesn't work out forever it might work out for a minute like you know like right now I'm not a successful makeup artist but at one point I was and if I did just like

30:19.17

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Mm hmm.

30:21.74

Karissa

you know, focused on the fact that I'd be like here as a failure, like later on, i I never would have at least had like that moment where I was successful and that was worth it.

30:34.08

Karissa

You know, so I never would have told myself not to try. Cause like, I feel like at least like if you are successful for like 10 years and you like, you know, fix a lot of really cool cars, at least it was there for a minute, it's worth it.

30:40.59

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A minute.

30:50.35

Karissa

even if it's like a year or two, but I will say the pain of having it and no longer having it is pretty intense.

31:03.25

Karissa

Like there's, there's a bliss in not knowing what, what you had and what you could have and things like that.

31:11.96

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i I think I think though people have their ups and downs. I told you this before I know that like, we have our ups and downs and you but then it goes and then it comes right back up.

31:22.14

Karissa

Just down. You'll, you'll go up and then after up, it's just down. So no, no, it's just, just a really big gradual up until it peaks.

31:30.90

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Yes, it does. Nope. Nope. Nope. ah

31:38.87

Karissa

There's a peak.

31:40.14

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ah

31:40.68

Karissa

Everybody peaks. Okay.

31:42.57

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I again, I believe that every I think every single person has their ups and downs.

31:44.55

Karissa

Everybody peaks, man.

31:49.20

Karissa

Well, I guess there's like your day to day up and down.

31:49.39

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Everybody.

31:54.66

Karissa

But I guess when I'm talking about like full on career success, there's a peak.

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You got to define career and success because for a lot of people that can change dramatically. I literally I had this woman on

32:09.10

Karissa

Whenever you make the most money is how I'm defining it.

32:12.93

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i I have this lady on the podcast. I think her name was Valu Toila. I'm saying the name correctly. She was a physician, like she was like a doctor um for a long ass time and She got tired of the industry and how everything was being run and she really loved to art and she started creating abstract art like eight years ago and she told herself like she is a Really cool.

32:40.13

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I will send you a link it is she's a really cool fucking painter um and She's just amazing to talk to you know, like this is a and here's the thing about her, right?

32:42.36

Karissa

It sounds cool.

32:52.89

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She went to school for fucking shit-ass time. She then went to a clinic. They completely changed over like their entire like head of staff, like just new management and everything. And then they were like, oh, by the way, here's more work, and this is what you want to do. And she was like, no, I'm not doing this. And then she tried something else out, and that worked.

33:20.36

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like Her life has like dramatically changed so much. And she was doing this while having a husband and two kids. I'm like, Jesus.

33:35.78

Karissa

that is incredible but like she had the money to do it because she's a doctor otherwise you just have to do all the shit that you don't like doing yeah

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But you know what? The the thing that I like, whatever the case may be like true but she could have been like the rest of those doctors just doing the exact same bullshit for their entire fucking life like not only did she completely change over her entire career but then she's like she gave up her entire career to pursue art you know what I'm saying like the different phases where she had like her ups and downs and like I don't know what her relationship with her husband and her kids were like I'm just giving that as an example I hear you but I believe that every single person yeah you may have peaks but there are always gonna be those ups and downs like you're gonna have your downs and then there are those ups it's just

34:37.77

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There's a lot of factors. Things change in our lives. Environments change. New situations come. through There's a lot of things that can happen. That's what I'm trying to get at.

34:47.17

Karissa

Yeah.

34:51.21

Karissa

you'll still have a peak.

34:53.11

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Oh my God. Jesus fucking Christ.

34:57.19

Karissa

And after that, nothing will ever be good as it was, but you know, I'm

34:59.20

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Oh my God. This is a horror version of Carissa. Stage four. like full on zombie apocalypse.

35:07.89

Karissa

just saying you haven't, you haven't experienced 35, okay? And around the age, I would say of like 32,

35:23.89

Karissa

You. All your dreams die. that

35:32.30

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So if you want to buy some of Chris's candles, you can go to ver velvet earth shop co at co.com. Right.

35:44.03

Karissa

ah Velvet Earth Shop. Dot com.

35:51.03

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This velvet earth shop calm.

35:54.07

Karissa

buthop dot com No, I'm just saying like, there comes there comes a point where like, you you i like you have like all these dreams.

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I just wanted to

36:07.42

Karissa

And then and then you

36:08.78

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That was a great segue, by the way. I was just saying. I just wanted to bring up your candles before we wrap up. Yeah.

36:14.14

Karissa

No, but it's like you had all these dreams and then you woke up one day when you're like 34 and you realize that none of that shit matters and that you basically just need to be able to eat and sleep in a clean space where people don't make you want to die.

36:33.66

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Yeah. Yep. Shit.

36:40.22

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Well, my life has been put into a blender and pureed like a fucking smoothie from Jamba Juice for $5.95. The small one, obviously not the large one.

36:52.86

Karissa

It's still good to shoot for your dreams because you might get there for a little bit. But then like later on...

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I think it depends on the person hunting. I'm just saying.

37:06.70

Karissa

I just like my fantasy of like everybody else has the same cards as me.

37:08.50

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I'm just saying. It really depends.

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ah You know what? I've I've had my I've had my ups and downs, but I think like, I don't know.

37:15.18

Karissa

It's not just me. That's just how life works.

37:23.17

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I think like.

37:27.26

Karissa

I hope your life turns out better than mine.

37:27.56

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I think that I'm smart.

37:29.21

Karissa

Like that'd be good.

37:29.64

Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, like i I think that like i'm a smart I'm a smart individual. like i'm not I'm not stupid.

37:34.00

Karissa

I agree.

37:36.08

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like I retain, you're not dumb, I'm not saying that either.

37:36.30

Karissa

Well, I'm not dumb. so

37:39.60

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like But I kind of know what I'm good at and I kind of know what I'm not.

37:42.14

Karissa

I'm a little dumb.

37:46.56

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Like, that's kind of a ah thing that I've been able to pick up on. fake It's like, I can sense environments and situations where like, I can tell if this is the right move.

37:57.40

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Like, I'm kind of good at making pretty good decisions.

38:00.16

Karissa

Have you ever thought that like, if you're not successful, it's possibly not your fault?

38:07.01

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Yeah.

38:08.52

Karissa

Right? Like a good part of me thinks that maybe it's like, it's not my fault.

38:12.61

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But as long as I have my certification and all of that taken care of, I can just get a job anywhere.

38:21.57

Karissa

but Yeah, you got to have some type of trade or like license or certification.

38:25.50

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Yeah, once I, like, if it doesn't work out, well, I'll just keep working on cars until I can't. That's it.

38:34.81

Karissa

No wonder what I'll do next.

38:37.24

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I don't know.

38:38.03

Karissa

I know, it's freaking me out.

38:39.19

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Stay tuned. Anyway, this has been American Groove. If you love us, you can find us at YouTube at Lost in the Groove Pod. So with that, catch you motherfuckers on the next. Peace out.

38:54.73

Karissa

Deuce.

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Lost in the Groove is my space to explore the real, raw, and unexpected. I started this podcast because I was tired of feeling like nothing ever changes. My therapist once suggested, I write letters to the government to express my frustrations. Then I thought, "Why not create a podcast instead?" Here, I can talk about what I want, with whoever I want, no matter their beliefs. For me, it's about having honest conversations,. Breaking down walls, and getting people to think beyond the surface.

I grew up in a blue-collar family in the suburbs outside New York City, raised as an Orthodox Jew. Leaving the religious community in 2017 was a pivotal moment for me. It allowed me to embrace my identity as an artist, and chart my own path. Who I am today, and what this podcast represents, is deeply tied to my journey. Leaving a community that was a cult; still is. Discovering authenticity, creativity, and independence in myself.

I’m a car enthusiast, an artist, and someone who thrives on creative expression. From old-school rap, and psychedelic rock. To vintage muscle cars and European classics. I’m all about the things that inspire passion.
My co-host, Karissa Andrews, joins me for American Groove. Our segment on stoner culture, and life’s weirder twists. She’s an incredibly talented makeup artist, aesthetician, and candle maker. She brings a spice, pizazz, and realness to every conversation.

This podcast isn’t about chasing fame or conforming to trends, it’s about the experience. I want listener, whether they’re driving home, cooking, or just unwinding. To feel like they’re part of something real. Lost in the Groove is my way of staying true to myself, while connecting with others. learning, and having fun along the way.