Episode 211

#211 - Interview with director/producer Jeremy Norrie

Where talking with filmmaker Jeremy Norrie from Skyland Productions. Well known for his documentary Aliens vs. Bigfoot available on prime. Jeremy's has made a lot of incredible documentaries. You can find them on Amazon, FOX, and CBS streaming platforms. Jeremy has a different perspective to filmmaking. From overcoming personal struggles, and exploring the afterlife. His work captures stories, that blend curiosity with authenticity creating a masterpiece.

From his early days in the cannabis industry, to his current passion for storytelling. Along the way, Jeremy shares the challenges and triumphs that shaped his career. Learning the lessons about being resilient, crreativitive, and connected in the moment. If you’re curious about filmmaking or drawn to stories that inspire and empower's you. this is an episode you don't want to miss.

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https://www.theskyisland.com/

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Transcript
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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah. um And I love what I do. I have like ah a long journey of how I was originally in the cannabis industry, doing all kinds of stuff in that world for a long time. And then ah that journey ended kind of abruptly in a way. And then I eventually found filmmaking kind of through documenting my journey in the cannabis industry in a way. So.

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Jeremy Norrie

And it's all kind of come full circle.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

There's something Oh, yeah, I mean, for sure. One thing that I kind of appreciate, especially like those documentaries, especially back in the day, like you've seen this with like a lot of ja Japanese um filmmakers, going back like even to the 80s and 90s, where they would just use a camcorder.

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that's it.

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Jeremy Norrie

and

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And they would just record the city of Tokyo, just have simple conversations with people, go to a cafe, hang out with people that are playing chess.

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Jeremy Norrie

yeah

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And it's very enjoyable. Like, I'll tell you, honestly, as a cannabis donor, I can get high as high as shit, sit there, watch it. And it's It doesn't need to be great quality. i don't Maybe you could explain this. There's something about like documentaries not being like a Discovery Channel or like Animal like ah animal Planet. you know wherere It's just a camera and the person in the environment. It's pretty much that simple.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, sure. So that a lot of it it has to do with production and you'll even see some films try to recreate that by using lower quality equipment. And the connection is more real because um there is there's like a natural gravitation from humans to look at lower quality footage as like homemade, you know?

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Jeremy Norrie

And you have that kind of connection to home movies and things that you would shoot yourselves without all the fine tuning of knowing all what to do from a production standpoint. So when you you do those kinds of shots and they're purposefully mistakes or you just don't know and you're just doing the best you can.

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Jeremy Norrie

There's like a connection that that people have to it not being produced. And that sometimes feels more real.

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Jeremy Norrie

right

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

So so I think that that's part of what it is. And a lot of times also it's the content that you're shooting, you know, podcast kind of experiences these days where if you're shooting a conversation and it's not really edited a lot, that can really connect with the audience. So some of that also transfers over in documentaries as well.

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s to about like the early:

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wing up as a kid in the early:

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or like the person that's holding the camera and taking the film, like you can almost put yourself in their perspective at the moment as you're watching it.

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Jeremy Norrie

sure

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I hope that makes sense.

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Jeremy Norrie

and Yeah, I totally understand. And I think that um to a certain extent, ah when you're watching those things maybe some of the oh sorry about that.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

That's OK. We need a little distraction sometimes.

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Jeremy Norrie

There we go.

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It's good. he

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Jeremy Norrie

So. Some of the the things that carry through in art are the the passions of the artist, right? And so when those animators are drawing those older cartoons, ah there was a lot more hands-on parts to those films, you know?

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And I think some of that carries through in the actual way that it's perceived by the audience too.

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I mean, look at even most recently, I think um when they made Wicked, they use a lot of practical effects.

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It's not because CGI is bad. It's because that they know that there is a magic of something being real. You know, maybe you could talk from your own experience, but there is something where when you're in the moment making those films, you feel a connection when you're doing it. Like as you keep going and towards you get to the end, like you may not see the full picture, but it starts developing and like you almost morph with it. It becomes a part of you.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, a good storyteller can kind of do that with their story and kind of introduce the audience in a way where they emotionally connect with the characters. And then as the story, you know, plays out,

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you can take them on a journey. And that journey, a lot of times, is what we call the hero journey, where they they face adversity, they overcome, or maybe they don't overcome the adversity.

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Jeremy Norrie

But the story plays out however it plays out, and you kind of go along that with the character that you kind of emotionally identify with. And for the most part, that's what audiences like to see.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Most successful stories are some version of that. And um documentaries are similar things, too. you know like You're trying to tell a story that the audience can can then but excuse me that the audience can connect with. And so as you're doing these interviews and hearing these stories, um you're trying to kind of get the emotional connection and and ask questions that you think other people would want to know the answer to or could relate to in whatever way. So yeah, it all kind of works together and in emotionally connecting to the audience.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, yeah, 100 percent. I mean. I can tell you from my own personal experience, being able to have different interviews with musicians, artists. I've had even filmmakers that were in, I had one filmmaker on, and he lives in Germany, he's originally from Australia. And you know you walk into like, oh, I know this. you know like Yeah, I have an idea. But then when you like walk in, and particularly even talking with you,

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you learn something that you didn't know before. It's not that like you were wrong, it's that you're able to now have more pieces, more information to be able to add to that story.

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To your point, particularly with heroes, right? There are stories where the hero is the villain.

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Jeremy Norrie

in Germany, he's originally from Australia, and getting you walk into like, oh, I know

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A hero is an anti hero. A great example of this. I fucking love cartoons as Deadpool. Deadpool is the ultimate anti hero that has been like in Marvel and like comic book wise and stuff. But there's a reason for that. It's because you have these people now that they can look back, they can look at the history of the different types of characters Marvel has created through the sixties and seventies and eighties.

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and then create that character in the 90s. You needed all of that before in order to make that now.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, yeah, ah but I'll even say so that the Joker movie is probably the ultimate antihero where this this movie is You know, not like the others No, not like the not like any of the other movies they've made really and and that of not like the sequel and I

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Ever. Not like Jack Nicholson. No.

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Jeremy Norrie

the kind of dark, dark nature of this Joker character and how everyone like loved this character, rooted for this character.

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Jeremy Norrie

And he's the bad guy.

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Mm hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

And, ah you know, not lovable like Deadpool, where he makes great jokes. You know, this is um a trouble of the character.

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that people identified with. And yeah, as a story, you know, those filmmakers did potentially the best um superhero movie ever and by some people's standards. You know, its filmmaking is a beautiful art and you can create whatever you want.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, to your point with Joker, um I once heard this from somebody. I don't know if this is true, but this is what he told me. He said that back in the day, DC Comics, because they kind of came out during the 40s, which was World War II, there was a pandemic after the war, which is where people that came back, soldiers, they were very traumatized, and they were showing signs of mental illness.

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Jeremy Norrie

They kind of came up with it.

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there is an actual mental illness, which is talked in the Joker, where people can have this uncontrollable like condition where they'll just start laughing out of nowhere. That is a thing. And you know there are, for example, it's not mistaken, it's like a ah disorder it's like a mental disorder that's caused due to trauma, and there's a certain way of triggering it. I don't remember the exact terminology. But what he was getting at was that these artists, these cartoonists,

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saw this going on after the war. They saw all these people, because, you know, they're interacting, they're, you know, back when there was no internet. So if you wanted information, you had to actually go out to like a bar or go to a mall or just go out to an arcade or whatever. And they would see people acting like this. And would fuel them to eventually be able to create these characters like Poison Ivy, like Joker, like Harley Quinn. I mean, think about it, they're all mentally ill.

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comics were made when? In the:

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, you're absolutely right.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And, um, life imitates art and sometimes art imitates life.

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Mm-hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so all of it is, is kind of used together to create these stories.

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Damn, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And, um, yeah, I mean, some of the the coolest stuff ever is inspired by, or kind of, uh, you know, kind of tell stories around those subjects.

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Jeremy Norrie

So yeah, that makes sense to me.

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But it, it has a stem of almost like from real life, you know, like kind of continuing this trend, because I kind of like this, even take something like Star Trek, which came out all the way back in the sixties.

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And now there are technologies that they kind of predicted some of them are kind of more ish accurate. And we have them now.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, I was talking about this just recently

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And they thought about that. It's like Gene Roddenberry was really ahead of his time. Like,

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way over.

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Jeremy Norrie

Absolutely. So like what I like to talk about is so you have both ends of the spectrum, right? So when you look at like the holodeck or whatever it is kind of primitive in comparison to what we have now touch screens and all the things that they couldn't imagine the technology that we would have today and ah the Dick Tracy watch, you know, our every single person's phone is like astounding compared to so there's a bunch of things that like kind of

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yeah

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um represent the low end of the spectrum, but like um we still can't like teleport like the beam-me-up Scotty just yet. There's certain things that they have imagined that are a little bit beyond what we're able to do. We don't have lightsabers yet. we're We're getting closer and closer every year.

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Actually, somebody did make a lightsaber.

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Jeremy Norrie

but everything there There are versions, but it's not quite the thing yet where you're like, okay, there's no denying it, right?

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I don't know. if it Yeah. Yeah.

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Right.

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Jeremy Norrie

But it's closer and closer. And and maybe someday we'll be able to beam me up, Scotty. But we can't do that yet either. um I love the the things that we do have that have been inspired by ah some of these movies and it's it's a beautiful blend of all of it.

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it's and It's crazy, yeah. I mean, even particularly, like this is even, like I'm a car guy and I love cars. There are cars that existed because of movies, okay? Like, believe it or not, you know, Herbie, that beat bug? That's a real thing people do. Like they turn that into basically a road rally VW. It's notoriously famous.

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from a comedy sketch movie from Disney. It's hilarious. It's just impeccable on how like almost reality and fiction kind of almost coincide with one another.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, yeah. And like ah you're talking about cars, you know, NASCAR kind of came out of the prohibition days where they were building these cars out to run from the police and created a sport and, you know, created art that all, you know, comes around all of that, too.

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Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

So like um it's it's all kind of feeds into each other. That's part of what I love about telling real stories is that um you can kind of expose some of those things too because a lot of the the things that become popular are trends or hype or certain certain things and maybe the exposure isn't getting there for some of the things that are important.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so you get to tell those stories. And also I like, I do all these different strange phenomenon topics and I like

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I love phenomenon. It's like, what is that?

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, so i'll I will talk to people who are very new in the culture and I'll give them the opportunity to get exposure for their new book or their new story, even though they're not, you know, a famous name in the industry. I still love hearing and and talking to those people.

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Yeah, there's there's almost like – I remember I spoke with a scientist. um He was from Brazil, and he was also a chemist. This man was a genius. And I remember we were having a conversation particularly about alien species, and you know we kind of hypothesized this idea. He's like, why do we always theorize that aliens are humanoids?

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I said, you you have a really good point. He said, what if you had a planet that organically was metal? That so happenedly formed life. So that means that everything that comes from that planet that is organic or alive is metal. So they wouldn't form or shape or coincide with whatever we exist here on this planet. And I was like,

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You have a point. you know like we like This kind of thing with Star Trek 2 is like, I don't think there's that many humanoid species. We may be the only one.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure. ah There was a movie that came out recently, I can't remember the name of it, but they were like almost like a squid or like ah octopus type thing.

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Which makes sense.

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Jeremy Norrie

and they would talk by splatting almost like ink splatters on like a glass type of situation. and it was they were They ultimately had to decipher all these ink splatters because they were like hieroglyphics or like Japanese ah handwriting.

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and so um There have been little touches on these kind of theories. And then one of the popular like mainstream UFO theories right now is that the some of these things that people are seeing are not physical.

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that they have They are some sort of um light entity or some ah other kind of energy creature of some kind where they don't have

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and Another dimension.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, like maybe a spirit, maybe a ah demon. Like there's some other kind of life that we're not traditionally familiar with because we are familiar with life having a physical body.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

But ah it's interesting.

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Well, I'll so ahll tell you as somebody that was raised as a Jew, I remember like even in like you know the ah deeper stuff, they talk about where demons and angels live in the second dimension.

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So there's discussion already we're like, there are different dimensions to these things. So we can be in one dimension and there in another. It's like almost when you look at a mirror, I'm sorry, this is going to creep out a lot of people. My apologies. But when you look at a mirror, that's almost like an example of a second dimension and third dimension. What you're looking at is a 2D version of yourself in another parallel or possible multi universe.

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We don't know what that is.

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So, yeah.

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We don't know what that is. We don't know how to travel between those.

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I just did a film with a guy who has a book about a subject ah that he calls the space between the space.

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but

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That's the name of his book. Our film is called Celestial Deceptions.

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But...

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Jeremy Norrie

It's on YouTube. It's on, I don't know if it's on Amazon yet, but it will be, yeah.

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That name alone is just tattoo-worthy. I'm just saying.

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Jeremy Norrie

So his concept is that all of this has to do with frequency and vibration. And that anybody, theoretically, could tune into these places and be able to like perceive these things in a more physical way.

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So he has all these pictures of you know various different kind of energy entities that he has seen.

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OK.

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and It's a fascinating story. you know ah A lot of the stuff I'm familiar with from mainstream science where you you're seeing like, oh, certain sounds produce like a fractal pattern.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

right And you've seen that frequency and vibration, there is something more to that. We don't fully understand a lot of it, but there's certain theories on how these things can work that are mainstream science accepted as its reality.

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so it's just It's interesting story.

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Yeah, it's really, I mean, the thing that like I always go back to is particularly with,

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it's really hard to break down because when you're dealing with like, um just talking about earlier with octopi and squid, for example, they may be alien. There may be a reason, like,

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There's a video on YouTube, I don't remember what it is. There's a research lab where they use octopus for multiple like experiments to test their level of intelligence. They're beyond intelligent. I mean, this one like figured out that there was a tiny hole. They hit a hole, okay? They put the octopus in there within a heartbeat, went right through the hole.

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Just came right down, right through the hole.

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sure

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yeah if you've ever seen if you've ever seen one do the cloaking that's also yeah they're incredible creatures there's a bunch of stuff that's odd on this planet that who knows how some people think we are an alien creature you know so

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Was not even there. Crazy.

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Insane. Insane. You know, and we just, and we eat them for sushi.

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ah

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We might be.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, that we're very different than a lot of other things. And there're there's an argument that we should have seen more evolution at this point than what we're seeing if we came from primates. But you know, it's kind of a fringe theory.

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Well, they kind of busted the hole on the theory of before there was the belief that there were different species of humans, but they never correlated with one another.

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Jeremy Norrie

Right.

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It was just one species.

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right

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But then we now have been proving that there were different species of humans living and coincide with one another. So, you know, I was even pondering this idea the other day, you know, this depiction, particularly with biblical texts and older texts of giants.

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We know that Neanderthals were quite large. If Neanderthals, for example, interbred with Dovahsoans or interbranded with Homo sapiens, they could have made very tall people, which, I mean, there's LeBron James.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah.

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He's alive and real. A great example. I'm just saying Shaquille O'Neal hands over seven feet tall.

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Jeremy Norrie

There's a really famous, I forget who the guy is, he's like eight feet tall. He said like, when you go to Ripley, believe it or not, they got like a statue of this guy.

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Yeah, yeah, so.

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Jeremy Norrie

There are real like giants, quote unquote. ah But there's also these theories that ah the Smithsonian has hidden giant skeletons.

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There's

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I wanna be there, wanna go.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, the Nephilim, the stories from the Bible of the giants.

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Let's break it, let's break in.

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And there's there are these ah theories that giants used to walk the earth. And ah we don't have ah great evidence.

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They allegedly are hiding it. But the I love the theories. I might someday do a project on giants. And yeah, when you do see like certain people, you people used to be much smaller, you know and just in general.

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and and then when you see some of the like certain large races like the Dutch people and and other cultures that are abnormally tall, for whatever reason, if those two cultures were interacting somehow, we know that the Vikings kind of seem to come here.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

It could have been something like that, right?

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Yeah.

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It could have just been a like a really tall humans that were interacting with some like, you know, five foot tall humans.

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yeah

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it's It's really interesting where you know our understanding of ancient history, particularly, is very much with a modern setting. you know I understand that we know how to translate hieroglyphics, you know and particularly like certain languages such as Old Hebrew, but they were written thousands of years ago.

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so We, i if ah if if somebody would sit here and, for ah excuse me, would fucking tell me that they know exactly what it is to feel like somebody that lived 6,000 years ago, I would slap them.

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Because that's impossible.

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Jeremy Norrie

yeah yeah I agree with that. like Basically, we're totally different. um

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Completely different.

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we well you know there's There's certain things that are going to be innately the same. right so like you know We're basically the same kind of creatures.

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Fight or flight. Yeah.

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and We have arms and legs.

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Yeah.

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and you know We essentially operate in the same way, but we've become far more educated in all these various different ways. and

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We don't murder each other for farmland.

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yeah yeah you

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so Sometimes, but not anymore.

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weird thing to be a human in:

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Yeah, your your toilet was outside and your toilet paper was the crust off the tree. Ouch.

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Jeremy Norrie

and And who's to say if that, and I'm a proponent of, we need to get back to that, that we've kind of taken away all kinds of things unknowingly that were helping us be healthy humans.

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And the more we kind of isolate our lives and separate from what it used to be like and what life kind of,

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Yeah.

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um Evolved to be over what was like hundreds of thousands of years where we were pretty much the same thing for a long time thousands of years at very least and Then now we're this you know and a hundred years ago life was very different

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Yeah.

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onally for myself, I was born:

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Okay, like, I remember, like, I know if to this honest, I'm like, I remember dial up. I remember when people had landlines. I remember when Wi Fi was a luxury. I remember when a cell phone had just a keypad, and you wanted to text you had to do that multi.

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ly changed in like two years,:

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Jeremy Norrie

and

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My life completely, for a lot of people my age, completely changed in a very, very short period. What I'm getting at is we've been moving at an increasing rate.

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Jeremy Norrie

yeah and

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like I don't know evolution-wise, but I would say like as a society it was.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yep, you're absolutely right and ah kind of culture moves quicker than you know our physical bodies are moving and technology is moving along with that. And so you get a little taste of it when you go maybe backpacking or you do these things maybe where you get separated from technology or your technology doesn't work anymore. And you get a little bit away from it. But I grew up in days where we had no cell phones. you know

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Jeremy Norrie

go to Disneyland, your parents would be like, meet back over here at this time.

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Oh my God.

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And, you know, there was a lot of things that we've kind of grown out of.

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Yeah. Yeah. I know.

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Jeremy Norrie

But I i bring up the term um ah diminishing, there's there's something, ah the law of diminishing returns, right?

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No.

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Jeremy Norrie

So things can't always get better. Eventually, they're going to not be improvements. And um how many things have we lost that were really just like the pinnacle of happiness?

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no

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Jeremy Norrie

You know, technology, a lot of times the theory is that it's going to make us more comfortable or make things more convenient. And that will make us more happy or maybe but more able to pursue the things that make us happy.

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In a way, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

It's not always the case, is it? And there have been a lot of things over time where people have pointed those concepts out and we have to kind of face it. Right now, ah Pinnacle is our phones and it's changed society.

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Here's the mind bender. You know, people say they're like, oh, back in the 60s with Star Trek, they didn't have any computers. Yeah, they did.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure.

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You really think about it. The computer was always in their head.

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Jeremy Norrie

sure

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That's why, yeah, that's why they never needed to have a laptop or a desktop. They didn't need one. It was in their head. Just think about it. He would go computer. Computer would immediately snap.

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That's neural link. It's in his head. why That might be the next step.

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Jeremy Norrie

or was it Alexa can't even say that word

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No.

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No, because we got one and in the kitchen and it might go off.

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It's like the forbidden word, but yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, I love technology.

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i

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Jeremy Norrie

I love science fiction and all that stuff when we do all the UFO topics and we do the strange phenomenon topics. I love getting into all of that kind of stuff. I even, I asked all the UFO guys what their favorite UFO movies were because, you know, I think that's interesting too, because, you know, some of those movies that are out there are pretty real.

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Jeremy Norrie

And, you know, some of them, We're based on kind of real people and and things like that. So it's all fascinating. I like that subject. That's our most popular thing that we do.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I think, I think if you want to say movies, alien, I, I mean, it's kind of realistic.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh yeah, that's a good one.

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I mean, that, that could, that could happen.

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Jeremy Norrie

Do you want to take a shot at what they said?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't, what do they say?

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Jeremy Norrie

The UFO researcher people? I asked a variety of them and a few of them said different things. but So they they they went with a lot of them said Close Encounters.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No, I want to, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

So Close Encounters, there's two characters in the movie that are based on real UFO researchers.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Okay.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so they love that. And they love that it was kind of close to some real theories and this and that. So Close Encounters is a big one for them.

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Jeremy Norrie

um Another one was Interstellar, so ah that was i think Matthew McConaughey. and

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I think so, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

yeah and There's a lot of like kind of these concepts where they're interacting in different dimensions, and those are apparently really close to the real concept, so they they really liked that one. um Another one that they liked was Contact.

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Jeremy Norrie

so Contact, yeah, Jodie Foster, right?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Interesting. interesting

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Jeremy Norrie

And that was the one where they get the secret message. And I even interviewed one of the people that worked on that movie, like giving them some of the ah data and perspective.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

That movie scared the living shit out of me. i Like I watched it alone. I swear I still get nightmares sometimes. It is fucking scary.

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Jeremy Norrie

I loved it, yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't wish that. It was great.

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Jeremy Norrie

It's a good movie.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't wish that upon anybody. though I really doubt.

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Jeremy Norrie

It was a little disappointing at the end. Everybody kind of knows there was a little, the alien isn't like great. And so ah there was that, but other than that, man, really great movie.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

different time, you know, but it was made well, besides that part.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, I love it. It's grown on me more so since I originally saw it. It's one of my favorites too.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, yeah. I mean, like, close encounters, I unfortunately, like I've watched like bits and pieces and never watched the movie in full.

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Jeremy Norrie

really?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

But no, I've never watched it in full.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh,

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But I've kind of like, I've watched a lot of sci fi and alien movies. I don't know why it like almost like draws you in. Like the second you see UFO or extraterrestrial or there's like an immediate thing in your brain.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's like, you how you yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, people think we have a ah natural connection to that subject for some reason, that maybe we come from that, or that there's some something more to this story.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

What you've heard, you've heard of the stone ape theory.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, absolutely.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. And I like people are like, well, but you know, there's different parts of the world. And how could you say that? Like, because of the parts of the world that they.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't know, but like our brains expanding that quickly, like you compared to other mammals, their brain expansion does not align up like we, I think it was like three million years or something like that.

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Jeremy Norrie

Something like that. I've done a few different psychedelic medicine documentaries and I'm i'm currently working on one now. And um one of the things I talked to a mycologist about was that in this country, he is finding all these different species of mushroom when he goes out in foraging in the forest. He said about 30% of mushrooms that he finds have no name.

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Jeremy Norrie

that they might physically look like mushrooms that we know, but when they sequence them molecularly, they're different than their European counterparts. And so these mushrooms are all over the world. There may be different types of varieties and what have you, but one would imagine this experience could have been replicated multiple different places. So I think there is some some value to the stone date theory.

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Jeremy Norrie

A lot of people also think it was cooking meat that kind of inspired this growth and in the brain too, which has happened maybe a similar time frame, so I don't know.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I would tell, I would tell you as somebody that has used psychedelics, if you take them, you know that there is truth to this.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

There's something that they do to your brain where I'll be very honest, like so I've taken true multiple times.

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Jeremy Norrie

sure

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Every single time I've taken trumes, the person that I was before, I don't even recognize.

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Jeremy Norrie

Interesting.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's like I wake up and I turn into a completely different person. I, so,

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Jeremy Norrie

I've taken them a lot too.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't know if that that does does that to you, but it definitely does that to me.

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Jeremy Norrie

Well, um you know, I've had those experiences definitely where it was really profound and you maybe face something and got direction that you were really looking for. I've also had experiences that weren't so profound and, you know, they were enjoyable experiences, but it didn't necessarily change me for any sort of

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

fun

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Jeremy Norrie

way. I'm old now too.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

you know So when I do these things now, I'm kind of the same person that I think I'll always be to a certain extent. um But yeah, I mean, there is there's a common thing that people feel where they say that being on certain things feels more real than reality.

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Jeremy Norrie

right And I don't know if that's real, you know. um I've had some experiences that make me think that that's not, that it's just a ah perception thing. But then there are also experiences that make you feel the opposite way. And who knows what is possible.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, I mean, I even remember like, particularly with Peyote, which is we're every single person that I've spoken to that has taken it has had like a different experience.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's all around music, but it's always like a different interpretation. Like for me, it was like sound turned into shapes, geometric shapes. So a weight, like kind of what we were talking about before, like almost like wave and vibration kind of equal in mesh. So as you hear the music, you see new shapes and patterns. Another person said that they saw colors and lights.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

What I think what it is is like almost like a tap way. You know, like we were talking about before, like there's the third, the fourth, the second dimension is like almost like a gateway. So what these psychedelics are doing is like turning like almost tuning you in to the spiritual web or wire coming out of your brain, coming out of your conscience and connecting into that.

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Jeremy Norrie

yeah

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

What does that mean? Like, I don't know, but I think there's some truth to this, like, They're doing something.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure, sure. There's like a lot of people working on some of these theories. And you mentioned peyote. So um I don't have a lot of experience with peyote. I think that is mescaline that would be the active chemical in peyote.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

I also have not taken that just straight up either.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm hmm.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Don't recommend it.

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Jeremy Norrie

um Yeah, I've done plenty of DMT though.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You'll have the.

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Jeremy Norrie

And mescaline,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's the worst hangover you will ever have in your life, I promise.

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Jeremy Norrie

huh?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, it's horrible.

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Jeremy Norrie

Interesting.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

horrible.

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Jeremy Norrie

Well, you know, i I love doing acid and I love you know other things um and DMT and what have you I've done and I know that there's all this research being done on DMT that I think is really fascinating right now So I'll talk about one Really quickly.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, there's a lot of others goodies

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Jeremy Norrie

I don't know a lot about it. So I'll just briefly kind of go over what I do know there is I don't know remember even the name of the gentleman or the organization, but they believe that that the place that you go to on DMT is like a real place, right? And that the commonality of anecdotal things that happen during trip reports are not just um coincidence that these people are going to the same places.

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Jeremy Norrie

That's why they have similar stories and what similar experiences. And so they're trying to prolong the DMT experience. And I believe they've done that in some sort of way.

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Jeremy Norrie

I think it's like through IV or something.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, they have IV drip.

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Jeremy Norrie

And they're taking these people and trying to map out this place where

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

they think that they're going. and so that's That's interesting. I don't know that they've had a lot of success with it at the moment, but I'd love to hear an update as to what's going on with that.

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Jeremy Norrie

I don't know a lot about that whole subject.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

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Jeremy Norrie

I did recently listen to a podcast, though, from another guy that's making a documentary that

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Ooh. Okay.

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Jeremy Norrie

ah I'm not sure this this theory is a little lesser known. It was like a popular tick-tock recently Where they have figured out that they've got these like laser pointers or some kind of laser and they are shining the laser on like a wall or some sort of a surface and then they are seeing ah Characters like the matrix And ah they've they've got like this this they've got a trailer to the documentary where they're like introducing people to it.

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Jeremy Norrie

They have said nothing to them. They're like, you might see something. What do you see? And then they're all saying the same things. right I don't know how many people didn't say the same things, which is you know one other thing.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Bizarro.

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Jeremy Norrie

you know was They're only presenting the successful evidence.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's like entering Bizarro World. Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

But yeah, they they're doing all this stuff.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

okay

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Jeremy Norrie

And then like they're making these comments where they're like, oh, you can see it in this way. It's not. And and the guy doing it is like very analytical about it. And he's like answering all these like questions that you have in like these really um kind of eloquent ways where he's taken, OK, we might think that this is the counter-argument.

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Jeremy Norrie

And here's why it's not that.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Uh huh.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so it's really, really fascinating. I really would like to see this documentary. I'd love to talk to this person. um But he believes that we live in the matrix now and that what he is perceiving is code.

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Jeremy Norrie

and that basically it's the kind of code that you would see in a simulation type of type of thing and that he is revealing that somehow through but being on DMT and then using a very specific kind of laser. yeah Really interesting.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, honestly, there is some truth to that because if you really think about it, mother nature or our universe is an organic quantum computer. Okay. Whether you want to, I mean, it literally takes cells.

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on a molecular level and combines them and then creates different like, I don't know all the terms and terminology, but literally like creates different forms of life.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It creates different things. so That's a computer. Okay. What is a planet? A planet is an organic spacecraft. No, it's not.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yes, it is.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yes, it is.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It has a core.

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Jeremy Norrie

It has a core,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It has a core, which is its power source. It has a rotation which uses its sun as its energy source. Do I need to keep going?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Like it's kind of obvious that like, yeah, we kind of do live in a simulation. Like we don't know what the, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

There's a cool video, Neil deGrasse Tyson sitting with like a bunch of, like I think it's astrophysicists or some sort of mathematician type people where they're talking about DNA and how they've like like done some sort of ah genome printing out of the DNA code and they found computer code in the DNA. It's a really interesting little video. um There's a lot of stuff like that where you start to get suspicious What is this all about?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah Yeah, but you know what? It's kind of almost where, you know, this this ideology of a god or a being or an all… You know, we may be looking at this wrong. The universe in and itself is a superior being. It may be… a thing, or things we don't know, that projects and creates in this form. Like, our perception of what the Big Bang is very well may be the projection turning on. Because it has always been there. You know, our concept of, you know, we as humans can't fathom something existing infinite. Never died, never was born. Doesn't need to.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

We need to. Not that thing.

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Jeremy Norrie

Right, yeah, and the hearing that there are you Infinities that are greater than other infinities is another concept that seems bizarre but math is a weird thing and um There's all these different things that seem impossible, but according to the math ah We live in a really odd world.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah

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Jeremy Norrie

That's mostly you know air this data that we don't even know what it is dark matter or whatever and Adam is mostly like space and there's lots of weird things that the things that there forget the name of the thing but that Certain things only happen when you perceive them like if you aren't watching they don't happen It's like there's all these weird things to science and life and as we start to figure them out ah hopefully it gives us a ah more happy life, right because

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. i

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah

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Jeremy Norrie

I don't know. It seems like the ultimate point to all of this would just be to be more happy, but we're not going to escape the Matrix.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I don't think you need to escape it. You know, I think, I remember I saw an image a while back where this artist created this picture of what a human being's vision of sight is from a bird's eye view. So literally most of the image is black.

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And the rest of the image is what the person is saying. And you realize, oh my God, like there's so much of the world around you, you're not even paying attention to. And I think that like, you don't need to have the belief of, you know, am I going to like, go to go to heaven or home You know, or is there a God? I don't think it really matters. I think what really matters is to kind of understand what is this world? What is this universe that we call? And if it is a quantum computer, if it is a projection, it is a matrix. Guess what? This is better than any fucking holodeck I've ever seen on Star Trek. I'll tell you that right now.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, one of the things if you've ever woken up in a dream that can be really deceiving like I've had experiences through talking to these people where they're like tell you like astral projecting is a real thing. one One cool concept is, so I'll talk to people from different kind of cultures and they'll reference things and I'll be like, oh, that's the same thing. They're talking about like the same concept, but it's not like they don't, they're not referring to it really as the same thing. So one time I was doing an interview with a ah shaman and he had a yogi

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Jeremy Norrie

guy, ah yoga like one of these yoga shaman type guys there. And he came over to talk after I was done filming. And we were just sitting around talking and he was talking about how yo there's there's all these pictures of yogis levitating and that they're fake. I was like, oh, okay, this is interesting. Where is he going with this?

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Jeremy Norrie

And so he was like, oh, you'll see them up in the air. And what they're doing is they're just like learning how to kind of jump up in the air. And then they take a picture. And you can see their hair is like floating.

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Jeremy Norrie

And there's all these signs where they're just jumping up in the air. It's so obvious this isn't levitating. This is just some little game that they're playing.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

But that you can levitate as a yogi. And I'm like, oh, OK.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Of course.

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Jeremy Norrie

So tell me more, right? He's like, but your you don't your physical body doesn't levitate. What happens is you, your your like spirit comes out of your body and you're like levitating outside of your body.

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Jeremy Norrie

And I've done these interviews with these guys that talk about remote viewing and astral projecting, and it is exactly the same story. They talk about this kind of, you get into these states, you meditate, you think about these things for a certain while, and then you were able to kind of lead out of your body. And like i even this guy, he's like, I've only done it once. i was really hard It was really hard to get myself into that state.

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Jeremy Norrie

I'm like, oh, this is the same thing. They're talking about the same thing. And that makes me think, oh, then I wonder if this thing they're talking about is a real thing that we can all do. And so I've done some stuff where I'm like, I'm trying to do the thinking thing. I haven't really like learned exactly how. But then I'll notice like yeah if I'm dreaming, I'll have a bunch of

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

like waking dreams, where you're lucid dreaming, right? And I'll like realize in the dream, I'm like, this isn't a dream. And um I'll be like, it's this is obviously real life. But then I'm thinking, but is it a dream? And I'll start thinking in the dream, like, is it a dream? And I'm trying to connect with my body that is sleeping. And like, and as that starts to happen, and you start to be like, Oh, my God, this is a dream. Like the the How real it is before that moment is so convincing that you realize, oh, anything is kind of possible if you could get to that place however you get there. And so all these stories of people doing these various things, it could all be real. It's amazing stuff, what our brains are capable of.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I I haven't had the best experience with lucid dreams. For me, they've been quite terrifying. um What was really okay, I don't remember the name of the TV show.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It was a TV show they came out with. It was basically where they have this job, and they have to like get it removed from their brain. So when they're at work, they don't remember their outside life.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh. Oh.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

But yet, I don't remember that. I'm gonna have to

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Jeremy Norrie

Was that like a dark mirror episode or something?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Kind of, it's from, um it's an actor that was in Parks and Recreation. You know that TV show?

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, oh. um I saw a movie that sounds like that. i ah Where they go to sleep.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

His name is Adam Scott, Adam Scott, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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Jeremy Norrie

Severance, huh.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

severance

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Jeremy Norrie

I'm not super familiar with that. I'm not sure if I've seen it.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Um, but I literally had once, this was a while back, I had where like kind of that almost instance and I was kind of like in an office building and it was kind of like almost like from the eighties.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Do you know what I mean? Like fluorescent lighting, very dingy.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

There was no one there.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

There was no one there. The building was completely empty. And I kept on going back from like, is this a dream or this is not a dream? It was terrifying.

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Jeremy Norrie

There are videos that people have shot where they claim to like stumble into like a different dimension where they're in some sort of abandoned building walking through it and there's nobody there.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

There was no exit.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, it's weird.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

There was no exit. There was no stairwell. And the elevator had a door, but you know how it like, and you could see like the line that the elevator will, it was just a solid sheet of metal.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure. sure I've had some negative ones where like I've woken up and I like couldn't find my car. I remember thinking my car is stolen. um I've had my car stolen before and so like I woke up and it was it had happened again and I was like looking for it and I realized, oh, I'm in a dream. I don't even own that car anymore.

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Jeremy Norrie

like um and ah I've had it happen when I was young where I used to think I was naked at school and I would really terrified by these like like really really vividly real dreams that somehow I had ended up at school with no pants.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I, you know, just like an idea to throw out, it's very possible that when we go to sleep, it could be that certain chemicals in our body get released.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, like we do know that there's DMT in our body.

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Jeremy Norrie

oh that's happening. hello

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

So it could be like almost we're, when your body's releasing this, you kind of like wake up. The problem is you're not supposed to wake up and you wake up in the DMT world.

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Jeremy Norrie

right right they have these different yeah yeah like yeah they they do a lot of studies on ah dreaming and there is what they call like the the deep sleep forgetting the exact term but it is like this like healing sleep that if you eventually get to that's where all the good things happen and You know, there's certain things like smoking pot kind of prevents you from getting REM sleep.

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Jeremy Norrie

That's what it is. And so if you are sleeping with like a light on in your room, you're not getting the REM sleep.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mm-hmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

And there's all these little things that set it off to where you don't get into that like deep, deep sleep. But ah that would probably be also where all these chemicals are happening also.

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Jeremy Norrie

and

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Jeremy Norrie

We don't know exactly what dreams are, but I'll tell you what, the first person to create something that puts you into the dream state, like billionaire, trillionaire, you know? Because that's the most real experience I've ever had.

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Jeremy Norrie

And if you could control that experience, you see you could eliminate all forms of entertainment, basically. So I would just do that every time.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I. I think like almost where it's like an illegal gateway. You know, it's like something you're not supposed to do.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, it's the the input that the hacker puts in so you can crack through. And.

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Jeremy Norrie

I'll also say there's weird things that seem against the rules in the dream world. So like, I will wake up in the dream world and try to do some devious things and they won't let me do them.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And I'll be like, huh, that's weird. He wants me to be a good person in this place. And, um,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

That, you know, it's kind of a lesson in of of itself. I don't try to do the devious things anymore. I try to just like fly and and whatnot. that Flying in a dream is exactly what people have like. like I did it just like Keanu Reeves in The Matrix where like I realized, oh my God, I'm in a dream. And I just like, I kind of got down and I just flew up and it happened just like in the movie.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I literally jumped off the Empire State Building on a mattress and an alligator on the other end.

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Jeremy Norrie

Whoa.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Uh-huh.

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Jeremy Norrie

Terrifying.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I literally felt like I was like falling down and like I got this alligator that looks nasty and hungry and I'm on the other side of this mattress. Insane. But yeah, falling alligator mattress.

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Jeremy Norrie

yeah

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Jeremy Norrie

So ah one other thing I want to bring up, i'm going to try I've been trying to do another movie about a thing that I find the most fascinating ah phenomenon that I've ever encountered.

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Jeremy Norrie

um And i'm I'm a very big skeptic on a lot of this stuff. So when I'm doing these stories, I'm somewhat debunking the the concepts. And I kind of walk away from a lot of them not super convinced.

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Jeremy Norrie

But yeah, yeah, that Bigfoot dematerializes or it you know is a demon or something.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Like the lizard people in the sewers.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

or vampires are in Hollywood and they are the Kardashians.

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Jeremy Norrie

um Yeah, all of those things, it's hard for me to believe, but I had i had a friend introduce me to a book and then I watched a documentary on it, the documentaries on Netflix.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

What?

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Jeremy Norrie

And it's about um the last chapter of it was human child reincarnation stories.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

yeah

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Jeremy Norrie

And there's this place at the University of Virginia where they study child reincarnation stories and this scientist guy who has talked to like their many of these kids and Yes, and so they so they show these so it's children who have stories of former lives that they live and so ah you Like he's doing this interview with one of these kids He's like, ah, what I do is I try to go and debunk the kids most of them you can kind of maybe

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with child reincarnation.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh.

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Jeremy Norrie

people that some of the stories though are very profound and um seemingly real like me watching it I have no other explanation like I'm pretty good at coming up with some other explanation like this particular thing I have no idea what it could be other than like tapping into information that is just like out there somehow but this seems like that not that so ah he This one thing that he shot, he goes to this ah house where he has the mother and the kid. The kid is like, you know, five years old or in a very young, maybe three years old, like very young child.

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Jeremy Norrie

And the kid has been talking about some place that he's never been. He's been with his mom for the whole time. He's been alive. He talks about these people and other places. So what this scientist guy has done is he's come up with two different pictures. He's got a picture of the real thing that the kid talked about. And then he's got a picture of a similar thing, but not the real thing that the kid talked about, real place or whatever it was.

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Jeremy Norrie

And he's going to show the kid the pictures. And he's like, either of these look familiar to you. So in this movie, you're shooting it. It's basically like one shot. And you see the kid. He shows the pictures. And it is so obvious. The kid goes five for five, no errors. That's the place. That's the place. And when he sees the pictures, you can see his eyes light up. Like, oh, that's the place that I know.

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Jeremy Norrie

And these kids, like some of the stories, they have like first and last names of their former parents. A lot of them were in like some sort of traumatic situation where they died. And ah it's bizarre. and like Some of them have like technical knowledge of former professions that they were in to where you're like, how would a child know that?

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Jeremy Norrie

like it is So profound. I contacted the University of Virginia, and they wouldn't talk to me. And so I really, really want to like find out.

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Jeremy Norrie

I want to like talk to somebody that's studying this. This is potentially the most profound evidence of ah that something supernatural that I've ever seen.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

the

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Jeremy Norrie

So yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

The proof is this. We as humans are made out of energy. And we know this for a fact. Energy doesn't die. So we already know that our physical bodies die, obviously.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

technically are infinite, okay? Like some version of you is infinite. So this concept of you dying and, okay, that's now, you don't know what's gonna happen afterwards. But if that's the case, is it possible that like I was saying earlier that almost we have like a spiritual wire that like taps into another place.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

And maybe this kid got one of the wires from the previous round attached along with it.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure. And some of the stories are like 80 years apart. So it's also like not immediate where we're like, oh, this person died and then they're immediately now in this child.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

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Jeremy Norrie

No, like this person died 80 years goes by. Then there's this child. So where was this? And then they have memories, like they can reference like things from that previous time, like How is that attached to like, it's just, it's incredible. I'd i'd love to like look into this more.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, are the the human human psyche in and in itself is absolutely fascinating, not be not because it's just how vast it is. It's how little we little we know. We really don't know very much about ourselves. like As much as like we have evolved as a species and how we have... There is a lot of things about us that we just... There's no explanation.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

know

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Jeremy Norrie

And we're very different from person to person as I kind of do these interviews and talk to people and they've spent their whole life doing this one thing. They can be very dialed into that life. You know humans are kind of moldable in that way too. So as we kind of focus on different things we kind of become more

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Jeremy Norrie

dialed into that more dedicated to those things and even physically more able to do those things. So the variety of life is incredible. And, you know, as I do my stories, I just try to keep an open mind and anything's possible. I love ah educating myself in this sort of way.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, and you know honestly, it opens our mind to different ideas. The thing is, when you theorize about things and talk about the unknown, yeah, a lot of this hasn't been proven yet. But there's a reason why a lot of people stem to these things. There's a reason why a lot of people connect to these things. It's not just because of storytelling, but there is some truth to it. You know, it's coming from, well, you didn't give us a good enough explanation, so we'll give you a better one.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, for sure. I've done a few documentaries also about like what I call serious topics as opposed to the strange phenomenon stuff. um Like if I discovered Bigfoot in one of my documentaries, I don't know that the world would change dramatically the next day, maybe for some people.

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Jeremy Norrie

But like I did a mindfulness documentary, and I was like, wow, if everyone would do this, it would be a colossal change in everyone. Such an important and and wonderful concept. We should be teaching this to kids. And I did diet and nutrition. And as you talk to those experts, the scientists, PhDs, various different very mainstream educated people,

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Jeremy Norrie

They have completely polar concepts on a lot of these topics and um you know you don't have one story that's like, okay, here's the facts. You have a bunch of facts and a bunch of theories and you know evidence, but not necessarily causation. It's more a correlation.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so some of that could be this, could be that. And it's fascinating to kind of learn all the different perspectives and and just keep all that information with me as I proceed into other things in life.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, you know, you bring up a really good point, because like, particularly like we were told for a very long time that like saturated fats and meats, you know, and this whole thing of like, you know, eat margarine.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

and I mean, now we learn that butter is actually healthy for you. And red meats are a lot better for you. You know, and seed oils are terrible for you. Like, our whole idea of diet and nutrition, to be honest, is like, kind of flawed, like, particularly here in the United States.

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's bad. Really bad.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, they say that the the pyramid that we learned as kids flipped upside down.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, it, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And that what you actually should be eating is the things that were on the bottom. So it's an interesting thing.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Not at the top.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, it's an upside down pyramid, you know, like a slice of pizza.

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Jeremy Norrie

And I'll also say, like as you kind of live life and you eat things and you create different problems within yourself, um everybody's needs change too.

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Jeremy Norrie

So like maybe what I need isn't necessarily what you would need. And I've maybe killed myself by eating too much sugar and eating all kinds of bad stuff to where I have to be more cautious about that.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Whereas maybe somebody else didn't do that and doesn't have to be quite as cautious about that. And there's all the that changes in all kinds of different ways.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

and Food is probably the main thing ah towards our health. And unfortunately, it has definitely been ignored. Our society and culture has gone in this direction where we want pills.

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Jeremy Norrie

We want these like injections. We want all these like cures for these things.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And we want to just be able to eat cake all day. and

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I love cake.

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Jeremy Norrie

have convenience of fast food and not have to pay the consequences.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Nope.

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Jeremy Norrie

so yeah and you know It's different for everybody, but I hope that that changes as we kind of move on in the future and we learn more and about kind of balancing our life with what we're supposed to be and and what we like to be.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

rong was we We're evolving in:

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Jeremy Norrie

Sure.

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Jeremy Norrie

I think in a lot of ways, that's true. like and And hopefully, people are participating in that. I know some people are still struggling. you know um And it is.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. It's hard out there these days. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Jeremy Norrie

And it's definitely getting harder and harder. But I think that a lot of people are working on that too. And the more you kind of educate yourself and and change as the world changes, things can get better.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, it's all about having honestly like a positive mindset. And it's not necessarily, you know, like living in fucking Barbie land, you know, it's It's more of having a positive realistic setting, which means that there's so much that you can control and so much that you can care for. you know It's to be able to value your time, your perspective, what your needs need to be met. And it's not putting other people's aside, it's making sure you're taking care of before you can help others. you know that There is that power dynamic that if you wanna be successful, if you wanna be able to like get through this,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I think that is honestly the right approach.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yep. Yeah. I love this the concept of being the hero of your own journey and trying to be the person that ah that other people think that you are aspiring to be that person and trying to just be grateful for what you have in general. And all of those things, if you kind of utilize those things in your life that That opens up new opportunities and it helps you to help other people too. And like you said, um you know, they say hurt people, hurt people. But healed people can heal people, right? So the more you improve your own life, the more you can kind of share those improvements with other people, even if you're not totally healed.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, we you don't have to be think about is you don't have to be perfect. You know, there is something nice about perfection. But the thing that makes us the most human is the fact that we are imperfect.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, if you open yourself into a business relationship, or, ah you know, a friendship or an actual service relationship with someone, and you are afraid of you not being perfect,

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, yeah, I don't think perfection is an attainable thing that you may have it for a moment.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I guarantee you, you're not going to be successful.

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Jeremy Norrie

oh yeah i don't think perfection is an attainable thing

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

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Jeremy Norrie

that you you may have it for a moment

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

A millisecond, if you're lucky.

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Jeremy Norrie

But yeah, it's not something that's sustainable.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

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Jeremy Norrie

And um mentally, one of the things that I had to learn to deal with was ah life, like when I talked about diminishing returns, life isn't always going to be an improvement. You might have the roller coaster of life where there's ups and downs. That's how it is for most people. And how do you deal with those downs? you know do you completely collapse, or are you able to kind of deal with those part those moments where you don't allow the ups to affect you in such a dramatic way that it prevents you from ah being able to deal with the downs?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. I personally have found like, you almost find a place of p solace where You can look at it like, oh, you you only have one peak your whole life. Or, you know, the way of looking at it is that maybe you did have one peak, but maybe you have little mountains or little plateaus or little Hills. You know, it doesn't matter what size it is, you know, what kind of matters is balancing the motion almost of when you're in that down, when you get back to whatever the up may be.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, there's like, it's gotta to be the biggest mountain. No, it doesn't have to be the biggest mountain. Like, it does not mean up. You know what I'm saying? Like, a big up could be like, I don't know, fucking 7-Eleven Slurpee is 99 cents instead of a dollar 79.

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Jeremy Norrie

sure

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Right, yeah. Not gonna lie, that's kinda sweet. But, you know, there's so many different things.

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Jeremy Norrie

ah

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I think like, honestly, like limiting yourself down to just like, oh, it has to, that is the only, no, it doesn't have to.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, ultimately, it's about kind of perceiving ah whatever you have as something good and being grateful for that thing.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Uh-huh.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

um Whether it's, you know, the Slurpee or whether it's some sort of work accomplishment or even just not having stress in your day for a day or something. you know like There's all kinds of little ups and downs that happen. um Maybe you're watching somebody else succeed and you're able to kind of enjoy that. There's a million ways to perceive things from a positive perspective and it's easy to look. The easiest thing

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Jeremy Norrie

is to look down on on accomplishments, to be jealous, to kind of squash everything and find the bad in everything, to feel sorry for yourself and think that you're being mistreated or that you know the world is against you or that the odds are on so insurmountable and you'll never overcome whatever it is. And so why try?

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Jeremy Norrie

i it's It's really easy to get into that kind of mind state and and live in that world. So, you know, just having the courage to try and take it the other direction and even just recognize when you're being that other way and changing your mindset. um A lot of times it's just as simple as that.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah. I mean, it's a choice. Either have the red pill or you can have the blue pill.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Right.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Um, I wanted you to talk a little bit more because you mentioned that you have some films in the works. Um, what do you have currently working? What are some things ah you think would be interesting for some of the listeners out there?

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Jeremy Norrie

Absolutely.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Um,

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Jeremy Norrie

So I got a bunch of different stuff um in the works. I'm about to release a UFO crash retrieval documentary where I interviewed a expert from Lockheed Martin.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

okay.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh my god.

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Jeremy Norrie

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say that because he didn't want me saying it in the movie.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

All right FBI please do not arrest me today.

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Jeremy Norrie

But yeah, he he's kind of studied these books and studied all these different ah cases of crash retrievals. And he had, when he I showed up to do the interview with him, he had like two telephone book size ah folders of documents.

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Jeremy Norrie

And he has multiple levels of evidence that he requires for these cases. And he's trying to create physical images of these stories that are just in text. So ah he has some of the original drawings that he's been able to use and have artists kind of create a physical rendering of these different stories. And just hearing the stories, he's such a,

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Jeremy Norrie

He's so good at at telling all these different stories and he knows them all.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Is it also his voice?

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Jeremy Norrie

He's really, really wonderful. So, yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

you know the You know, some people have that voice when they're telling a story, you like almost you tune in, you're like, yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, he's he's good. He's got all the facts and he knows all the the the details. So that's really a good one. I'm working on a greater UFO project that I still haven't completed with all these different people from all these other small projects.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Damn, you're you're really fascinated with extraterrestrials.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I love it.

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Jeremy Norrie

Well, it's one of the big ones that ah pays the money, pays the bills.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

So ah in addition to those, I have a mentalism documentary that I was working on.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

So mentalism is a part of magic where they kind of ah can make you say things or like they read your mind or brainwash you.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Like hypnosis.

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Jeremy Norrie

It's it's those kinds of things.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

OK.

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Jeremy Norrie

And I did a documentary about like the the art of doing all that and then kind of Society and are we being brainwashed and are these techniques that they use to do these tricks on people being used on us? And how do they see that in modern society? So it's a little bit about the fun part of magic and and how all these things work and then ah how are you seeing it in the real world?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mmhmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

So some of that was interesting.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Mmhmm.

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Jeremy Norrie

um I also have a documentary about the weed culture where I kind of reached into my past and I interviewed all these activists and freedom fighters from the old days when I was young and the people I looked up to that kind of got medical marijuana to become a thing.

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Jeremy Norrie

They fought for hemp before that and now it seems to have all been stolen from everyone with recreational marijuana which they all somewhat participated in fighting for too.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No.

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Jeremy Norrie

So I wanted to talk about this story.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Do they feel used? Do they feel how do they feel about the story of medical marijuana and and is is it forgotten about now that recreational is around? It's not the thing that it once was and

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Well, we haven't.

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Jeremy Norrie

It's really fascinating to hear all the different perspectives from all the the activists over the years and what happened to kind of create the weed world we have now in California.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

it's It's ever so changing. I mean, particularly even with the gang bangs, you know, and with their cartels, particularly with the triangle. We're like, we're a weed, there's a specific spot. It's bad. i You know, it's one thing to be able to give the perspective of like why tell people what they should and shouldn't do?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Like, let people make their own goddamn decisions. Seriously.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Just let people, like, you let us drink alcohol and buy cigarettes, okay? Case proven.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, one of the things they brought up was that the packaging requirements on cannabis, they all have to have child safety packaging and all this stuff. But like Jack Daniels doesn't have to have child safety packaging.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

No. Neither is a package of cigarettes or a lighter.

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Jeremy Norrie

So yeah, it's like a ah weird thing with cannabis where the ah laws kind of that

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It can do this.

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Jeremy Norrie

they allowed for recreational seemed pretty restrictive. And they were just willing to basically accept it for money. Part of the story was um when the we're originally fighting this fight for marijuana, the argument was like marijuana can help people with AIDS, not necessarily cure them, just make their end of life better. And it can help people with all these other various different things, not even necessarily cure, but sometimes cure. And ah that wasn't a compelling argument. Nobody cared. They were like,

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh yeah, you know interesting. Let Colorado and California do their thing and just kind of watch from the outside. and They weren't in a big hurry to create these ah programs. for their Some of them started this and started that. But I'll tell you what, as soon as the tax revenue started to come in,

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Jeremy Norrie

It was a big change. And then everywhere wanted these places. And then all of a sudden they wanted recreational because they didn't want them to have to go through these little hoops of getting a medical card.

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Jeremy Norrie

you know all it They saw, oh, we were charging the medical companies 10% tax. Now we can charge them almost 40% tax.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, it's crazy.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so, yeah, it was a wild, wild story.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's really, I mean, it's also like, take even veterans, where, you know, a lot of them come back with trauma and PTSD and slew of a lot of other things.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

and Like, there's clearly been research done with MDMA and Ibogaine, and there's a bunch of other things that clearly can help these people get back on their feet. And it's like, nope, nope, not approving it, we're not a lot.

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Jeremy Norrie

Absolutely.

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Jeremy Norrie

so so you You actually just stumbled upon one of my other documentaries. I'm working on an alternative medicine documentary, which is and not just psychedelic medicine, but other things.

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Jeremy Norrie

like ah I did a frog venom thing that doesn't get you high.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

It's called Cambo.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Okay.

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Jeremy Norrie

and You just get sick and vomit. and It was kind of a horrible experience in a lot of ways, but I could see how it could be healing for for a lot of people. And that there's you know acupuncture and yoga and all these different things that are kind of fringe science, pseudo science theories on ah healing.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

But I think there's real healing that's happening for a lot of these people too. And is it all just placebo? I don't think that it is. I think that a lot of it is genuine healing that happens from doing these things.

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Jeremy Norrie

and so We're talking about these concepts and microdosing is a big popular thing. There's absolutely no evidence that microdosing works. We can't measure any sort of thing that has shown that it works. but There is all kinds of anecdotal evidence that it works, and and ah that's really compelling. Macrodosing, we can measure, and there's all kinds of healing that's happening from people doing macrodosing. And all like you said, MDMA. I'd also like to point out the MA in MDMA stands for methamphetamine.

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Jeremy Norrie

so Some of these drugs are things that people don't expect to be a good thing, um but they are in certain cases. and I think LSD has a value for healing people. I think ketamine has a value for healing people. and Obviously psilocybin, that seems to be one of the big ones that's getting a big push and probably going to be the first one that like they'll have sold as i chocolate bars.

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Jeremy Norrie

You already see a lot of the projects products going around.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

ah here

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Jeremy Norrie

There also is mushroom products that are not psilocybin.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I mean, I've seen those.

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Jeremy Norrie

so ah One of my friends has a company that has a legal mushroom brand and the a lot of legal mushroom brands

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I was going to say that.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, a lot of them are actually mucimal, which is the Amanita muscaria variety of mushroom. It does not have psilocybin in it.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh.

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Jeremy Norrie

And all the Amanita varieties have mucimal. And so it's a different chemical. It gets you high in a different way. um It's not as enjoyable to a lot of people that are ah familiar with the psilocybin experience, maybe.

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Jeremy Norrie

But different, and maybe enjoyable to some.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I see. Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

so you know

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

I've seen them all over here in Florida. um I mean, because like they got like mushroom chocolate bars everywhere, but obviously they don't have psilocybin in them. Right? Like.

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Jeremy Norrie

Some of them don't, yeah. Some of them are just illegal, and they're like rolling the dice, which is crazy.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And there's even a store in Berkeley that's just selling mushrooms, you know?

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Are you serious?

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, you can just go in just like the old medical marijuana days and buy mushrooms. And so, yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah, when we're wrapped up this, I might be making a trip, you know, just...

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, there you go. Berkeley. Berkeley, California. I'm sure there's other places, too. They're probably doing that in Oregon. you know they they There's probably other places doing it, too.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, yeah.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Oh, yeah, for sure. I yeah honestly like I that was the thing that kind of like we were talking about earlier is like, being able to have that ability, not only with storytelling, but real life, real life experiences, things that people on an everyday day are experiencing, even to the far reaches of like phenomena.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

You know, these are people that are having, they're claiming they're having these experiences, which can be very traumatic, you know?

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Jeremy Norrie

experience.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, for sure.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

But

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Jeremy Norrie

and And even sharing the experiences, like I've had to kind of talk to somebody recently where they were like, um friends are like ending their relationship.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

i

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Jeremy Norrie

like They don't want to talk to me anymore because I like told them about my book. And like, oh, well, your book's a little out there. So they're probably thinking that you're crazy now.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

i I'll say ah'll tell you personally, like from an all real life experience, like I grew up in a Jewish community, and or Orthodox Jewish community in New York.

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Jeremy Norrie

So,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

So when I left, I kind of had that like perspective, where the rest of the world was insane. Okay, I never was used to the secular world.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

And when I would tell this to people, like sometimes it'd be like,

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

What do you need? I've had like even somebody I know talking to me like, yeah, I spoke to other people that came from the same place and they told me the same thing. I was like, I didn't think that was real. There's like this almost like disconnect where it's like, I know it's real. Why isn't other people seeing what I'm seeing, right?

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, for sure. and Like some of these things that I've seen, um you want to have that experience so that you can feel the the confidence in these concepts that the people who have experienced them have. um And some of the not everything can be real, right? So like some of the people that I've talked to you um have to be you know, misunderstanding these experiences in some sort of way.

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Jeremy Norrie

But some of them might be the real thing.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And, you know, I just try to be open minded with it. And like, hopefully in my life, I'll maybe have one of these experiences that will open the door to one of these concepts being more real to me.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Beam me up, Scotty.

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Jeremy Norrie

But as I'm just being able to talk to all these people that have them, it's it's fascinating and like it doesn't seem to be going away.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

there It seems to be progressing more and more different people having different experiences and yeah, I love it.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

In a Buzz Lightyear's own words, in infinity and beyond.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

Sorry, to infinity.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

It's very true, though, because you know what? The unknown is kind of spectacular. You never know who you're going to run into, but It's worth the ride. I think it is.

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Jeremy Norrie

Oh, yeah. And, you know, we keep getting these congressional hearings. It's like step by step getting closer and closer. And then they'll like kind of.

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Lost in the Groove Podcast

That thing in Mexico.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah. So you see, yeah, the the the skeletons. Well, I'll tell you what, there's people that believe super hardcore in it even still.

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Really?

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Jeremy Norrie

And they're like, argue about why that was not what, you know, it was perceived to be. And that those are real skeletons. That's what they think. So.

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I mean, the fact that they didn't let other scientists be able to do their own research and study. I'm like, come on, come on.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. But I think there is something going on with that where they like did something recently where they were all proud. They were all quite happy with some new discovery about these games.

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It's never, it it's literally never ending.

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Jeremy Norrie

I don't know.

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It like never has.

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Jeremy Norrie

Yeah, yeah, you know, we all want it to just be some undeniable evidence where we can all just kind of be like, okay, there it is.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

You know, it's always something where there's a little back and forth.

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Oh yeah, there always is.

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Listen, Jeremy, it's been an absolute pleasure. I was gonna ask you actually, you mentioned your documentaries. Do you have a website or any social media pages?

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Jeremy Norrie

I do, yeah, my website is theskyisland.com, and it's not as up to date as my IMDb page, so the most up to date is to just search my name and go to my IMDb page.

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Yeah.

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Ooh.

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Jeremy Norrie

Or even like if you put my name Jeremy Norrie into Amazon or into Tubi, you get a page with all my films. On YouTube, you have to type the name of the film with the word documentary at the end to find any specific film that you're looking for.

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Jeremy Norrie

Because just putting my name in gets a bunch of podcasts and other stuff like that. um yeah Yeah, hey, it happens.

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sorry a

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Jeremy Norrie

but and My website is pretty good, theskyisland.com, and it has links to a variety of different ways to watch my films.

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I'm telling you, we need more people like this. Because you know what? Anybody can be a filmmaker. Anybody can tell a story. But can they be a really good filmmaker?

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Can they really take really really incredible stories and make something really special? Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

Well, now's the time, you know, the opportunity is there.

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yeah

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Jeremy Norrie

You can kind of just get a camera, go out there, shoot stuff and put it out on YouTube.

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Yeah.

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Jeremy Norrie

And you're a filmmaker right there.

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There you go.

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Jeremy Norrie

And so you can work on it a little bit more and get it out to a distributor just like we do. And it's really the bar is not high. um You can kind of just get out there and start making stuff.

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Yeah, you really can. Listen, thank you so much, man, for coming on. um Anybody out there, if you want to check out more of the podcast, you can find us on Facebook, ah Instagram, and YouTube. And we're also on Rumble these days ah at Lost in the Groove Pot. So with that, catch you on the next one. Bye, everybody.

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Lost in the Groove is my space to explore the real, raw, and unexpected. I started this podcast because I was tired of feeling like nothing ever changes. My therapist once suggested, I write letters to the government to express my frustrations. Then I thought, "Why not create a podcast instead?" Here, I can talk about what I want, with whoever I want, no matter their beliefs. For me, it's about having honest conversations,. Breaking down walls, and getting people to think beyond the surface.

I grew up in a blue-collar family in the suburbs outside New York City, raised as an Orthodox Jew. Leaving the religious community in 2017 was a pivotal moment for me. It allowed me to embrace my identity as an artist, and chart my own path. Who I am today, and what this podcast represents, is deeply tied to my journey. Leaving a community that was a cult; still is. Discovering authenticity, creativity, and independence in myself.

I’m a car enthusiast, an artist, and someone who thrives on creative expression. From old-school rap, and psychedelic rock. To vintage muscle cars and European classics. I’m all about the things that inspire passion.
My co-host, Karissa Andrews, joins me for American Groove. Our segment on stoner culture, and life’s weirder twists. She’s an incredibly talented makeup artist, aesthetician, and candle maker. She brings a spice, pizazz, and realness to every conversation.

This podcast isn’t about chasing fame or conforming to trends, it’s about the experience. I want listener, whether they’re driving home, cooking, or just unwinding. To feel like they’re part of something real. Lost in the Groove is my way of staying true to myself, while connecting with others. learning, and having fun along the way.