Episode 235
#235 - Interview with podcaster David Beckemeyer
David Beckemeyer joins the pod to talk about toxic outrage. The darker mechanics of media manipulation. Seeing how polarization fuels political violence. As host of the Outrage Overload podcast, David brings science-backed insight. Into how we’ve become addicted to outrage,and what we can do to step back, breathe, and rebuild connection.
In this conversation, we dissect the psychological roots of division. How media hijacks our attention, and what it takes to truly listen in a fractured world. A grounded, eye-opening talk about truth. Real empathy, and breaking the feedback loop of fear.
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Transcript
Lost in the Groove Podcast
People are very much two-sided on two sides of a coin. so okay we're You have people that either label themselves either conservative or people label themselves as liberal, and those two things can't coexist with one another. That's that's what you're being told, that that's not possible, that they're two separate things and they don't mesh together.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I really like your synopsis, like the way that you kind of explained on how like that isn't 100% true, that there's a lot of similarities between the two of them that we don't realize.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, and I think another falsity there is that we we've sort of been told that that's how everybody divides up, right? We've sort of been told that you have to kind of pick a side and that's where everyone fits. But, you know, all the data shows that in real life, you know, that's not really where most people are at. i mean, most people have, you know, these cross-cutting ideas. Most people r have don't even know for sure what a liberal art idea are conservative idea is for sure. They may may know some about the tribe.
::David Beckemeyer
But it's like they don't even live that deep in the ideology and all that. But we kind of think we do because that's kind of how our brains work and we like to be part of a tribe. So, but yeah, mean what we find in real life is most people fit these kind of cross-cutting ideas that, okay, well, I'm kind of like these things that I support over here would fall probably in that bucket.
::David Beckemeyer
But these things over here fall in some other bucket or don't really align with that, right? But we're a little bit afraid to talk about that because if you if you're in your tribe and And we're all talking about this thing. We all like this. Let's do that. And then you throw out this thing like, yeah, but don't you think this is cool? And they're like, what?
::David Beckemeyer
No one says that. know and now And now you're like, everyone's looking at you funny. Like, what are you? That's a weird thing that you you have, right? But we find in real life, that's actually most people, right? mean, most people are not lockstep in agreement with one of these political parties or one of these tribes.
::David Beckemeyer
And most of us real people aren't like that, right? But we we kind of think so because we're kind of afraid to talk about those cross-cutting ideas that aren't necessarily what our usual group assumes.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
And sometimes we don't even know that's what the group thinks, right? We're like, oh, we did I didn't learn that when I was supposed to think that way. Oh, sorry.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I told you this before where you know being is somebody that's in the automotive industry, when you know you have people that use clickbaity titles and things – I'm going to give you a great example. you know People say the cars are still mass polluters.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
okay That is a myth that is from the 70s. And this is something that's coming from the automotive industry. Most cars today use highly advanced catalytic converters with O2 sensors that are like literally so fast, they move quicker than you can even think.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So the issue is not necessarily like cars being polluters. The issue then falls into a line where if that is where you want to put your focus on, like say, okay, why we focus on on China and India, which are the biggest polluters.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They pollute more than any other country in the world. So it's like trying to shovel a mountain with an itty bitty little shovel you buy at like Hobby Lobby, you know, or Home Depot.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
like
::David Beckemeyer
right. right
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right. It's not happening. going to shovel that whole mountain clean with one little shovel.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. I mean, you know, and you can kind of understand like, you know, ah you know, India, China to some degree are like over here. Well, don't, you know, look, you guys had 50 years of, you know, a hundred years of polluting like crazy and no one stops you. So why shouldn't we get a chance?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Let's take turns! Ooh...
::David Beckemeyer
But yeah, I mean, you know, it's like, I'm sure they feel that way. so Things like that sometimes it's like, you know, don't look, you know, you guys got to got away with this forever. Now you're, now you're mad at us, but But I mean, yeah, it's's it's definitely different times. Yeah. I mean, when I was a kid, for sure. Yeah. Like you say, in the 70s, stuff like that, cars were a huge factor. and And we've certainly done a lot. And like you say, they're so high tech now.
::David Beckemeyer
And they all, you know, so you could almost say that they but you put out, you know, less smog than they make, you know, kind of thing.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So high tech.
::David Beckemeyer
You know mean? like it's practically coming out cleaner on the back end than it is on the front.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. And you know what? Again, a lot of that just comes into advancement in regards to human ideology. It wasn't necessarily a war. You know, a lot of people complain about electronics with cars, and I do agree with a lot of people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But the benefit is it allows us to communicate better. OK, you know what? Like as a technician and I'm using this as a real life as an example, you It allows me to go into your car, you know, you're coming in and let's just say, you know, you're somebody that like has two kids and you need ah get to work every single day.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It allows me to go into your car and physically plug in a computer to see exactly if there's any faults or anything that's coming down there. I could literally go through wiring diagrams and see exactly what's causing the issue so that I'm not kind second guessing. Like, let me go, you know, like old cars are great.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But the problem is you can't make exact diagnosis and repairs. You can't be able to use that input of like lasering in with those conversations and being like, hey, there's a problem here.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Let's get into the deeper part of that. That's what electronics allow cars, especially when it comes to pollution and a lot of different things being able to do. They have drawbacks.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, if we think that everything is going to be utopia, Everything is gonna have drawbacks. No system is gonna be perfect, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't think I'm wrong with this.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. No, I mean, it's true. I mean, everything you do is is some kind of a trade-off, right? I mean, you've got to trade something for something else. There's so many hours in the day. There's only so many resources. All these things, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Everything's some kind of a trade-off. there's Very seldom is there something that, yeah, yeah everything comes up smelling like a rose, right? um But yeah, I mean, that's...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
great analogy. Hmm.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I mean, and that's a good analogy about our politics, too. It's like everything's kind of the same kind of thing, right? I mean, you're very seldom, and it's difficult, because you're very but you're very seldom going to have everything be what solved make everybody happy.
::David Beckemeyer
Just like in life, it's hard to make everybody happy, right? I mean, and if you try, you're usually going to come. There's some old saying about that, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
I try to make everybody happy. Nobody's happy, and it's like it's way worse. ah you know and so it's it's it's like it's we And we have to get more used to that, like more accepting of that. You know, and and yeah, there's a lot of these things that you're going to have to take like the first version of it and say, well, it's not perfect, but let's hope, you know, we can fix some of those rough around the edges parts. and And sometimes you have unintended consequences. There's all kinds of stuff that can happen in a big system that was way more complicated than people think it is. I mean, we are and we we like simple solutions, but I mean, real life, things are kind of complicated and sometimes they, we don't, there isn't necessarily a simple solution.
::David Beckemeyer
Um, You know, and and you're going to probably get it wrong sometimes. Like we think we have it all figured out then. oh wait, there was this other thing we didn't realize was going on and we didn't factor that in. and so we have to look at it again.
::David Beckemeyer
So all these things can be a lot more complicated than then people think.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's very true. And you know what? One great, great thing that I especially as somebody like I love aviation, you know, I obviously like I have a very like electrical. i like technical things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um But the thing that we realize with the aviation industry is, you know, there's been like a lot of hate in regards to how things are being handled. If you actually speak to people that work in the FAA and people that work within these control towers and things,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
my heart goes out to these people, okay? First off, they're dealing with tech that even my grandmother is familiar with, okay? Like, this is insane, all right? we We live in a country right now, and I don't want to scare people, but the FAA and, yeah um i forgot the other the other organization, there's a couple of other of them, weird they've been using the exact same equipment
::David Beckemeyer
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
xact same equipment since the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You can't blame a presidency for this. You can't blame government for this. You gotta blame a really poorly bad organization and business practices that have been going on for all of these years, okay?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, this is uncalled for. This is extremely uncalled for. Like, we have we have planes flying across this country every single day. And there are tons of control towers that don't even have proper GPS to communicate with the planes.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
that into their log. This is: ::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right. This is not the nineteen eighty s You know, like like, this is... It feels like we're living in... and some time. I don't know. Maybe the Matrix?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, this doesn't feel real. It doesn't.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's probably a lot of technology like that and in government and outside government. I certainly know, like, sometimes hospital tech blows me away with how basic it is, stuff like that. You know, and that's, that you know, it's like...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Dude, it's crazy.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, you know, and it is it is amazing the stuff that's in cars these days. So I don't know, you know, it's if you if this rings a bell for you, but like when cars first started putting computers in, it was like the computers kind of talked all the time to remind you they were there and stuff like that. The door is open and stupid stuff like that, right?
::David Beckemeyer
Everyone's like, I don't know what stupid car does talk to me. And now cars have like 15 computers, you know, they have way more, but they don't have to talk to us at all because they're just doing things to make, you know the whole overall all experience better. But we don't have to, they're not like in our face reminding us there's a bunch of computers there all the time.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, and the amazing thing also is, is that people don't understand that the way that these computers talk within a car, we call it a CAN network, C-A-N.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's literally the internet. Your car has its own little built-in internet system where it talks to each other. and if you think about that, okay, That is probably the most amazing thing you can put in a car. Okay, you wanna be one of those like, buy a Toyota, it's reliable.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, I'm one of those that's like, that type of stuff gives us some of the most incredible race cars available. We can build some of the most impeccable machines possible because of this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And like, I'm one of those that's like, oh my God, that's what I care about. And that, like you said, paving away of those computers that did the ping, ping, you know, and that like simple little pin with the flashing light bullshit gave us this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like we're able to do things, particularly if we're talking about the automotive industry that but did not even was not even a thought a hundred years ago.
::David Beckemeyer
No.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
100 years ago. ah hundred That's not a long time ago. It's crazy.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I am fascinated by old tech. Like, actually, I love I love looking at stuff that like I'm a tech guy, so like I understand how all the tech stuff works. Like, oh, you hook a sensor to a CPU and you communicate you do all these things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
But like the these guys that figured some of that out, like in old mechanical ways, it just blows me away, man. lo we We got a we got a bi metal sensor here, all this stuff.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
fuel injection systems in the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm like, what?
::David Beckemeyer
How did this all work, man? It's amazing.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
How does it all work? It's crazy.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I am fascinated by that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
amazing.
::David Beckemeyer
and I'm always like really impressed when they figuring out they when they had to do it with some old school way of doing it and they come up coming with a way, you know, and those weird mechanical sensors and stuff that trigger ah a little, it's all like Rube Goldberg kind of stuff that triggers a little flap here, which then triggers a switch there.
::David Beckemeyer
It's like wild stuff. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's a It's so, while I was talking to my grandmother about this the other day. I take care of her take her out in the afternoons. And um we were dealing with a little bit of a refrigerator situation.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And what's really interesting about HVAC, you know, with cars in particular, is very early cars used air conditioning. Like the air conditioning system came directly out of refrigerators. Okay, like a great example, General Motors actually partnership, I think it was Frigideer at the time.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
lly look at some of these old: ::David Beckemeyer
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
d be one of those guys in the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We'll just won't have a refrigerator for like a week. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
oday, but for somebody in the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That thought process seems like, oh, that's – But that's a complex thought process. you think about it in a more structured level, like refrigerator is stationary.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Car is constantly moving and affected by debris and life around you. You know what saying? It's crazy.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, limited power, limited resources, limited space, all this stuff, yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And it's just like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's just crazy to think that that idea ended up being one of the most amazing ideas.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And it's one of many ideas. You know, that that is the thing. It's literally people being able to take the leap of faith, being able to try something different, be able to try something new.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And that's where I feel like tying in with Tying with everything that we've been talking about, it showcases on how human ingenuity plays a lot in the role of human intuition and human collaboration.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Where it's not just one person, it's many people. It's not just one idea, it's many ideas. It's not one thought process, it's multiple thought processes.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I mean, you know, most real things that get done that are that are significant, yeah, are all put together with some kind of a diverse group of different kind of brains involved. And, you know, and it it can be challenging because you got to also avoid groupthink, right? Because probably some good ideas got thrown on the table somewhere along the way because...
::David Beckemeyer
bunch of people said, yeah, well we can't do that. We we can't do that. know, I'm always concerned when people saying can't, we can't, we never do this. I'm always worried about those absolutes, right? When people are throwing those absolutes out, it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
::David Beckemeyer
Let's not start with that. Let's think about it some more before we say we can't do that kind of thing, right? So, but yeah, no, I mean, those good ideas are what is is typically get evolved. I mean, yeah, there are those geniuses that sometimes they came up with the one wonderful thing and it was the best thing ever. But, you know, that's not really how the real world works most the time.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And there was a period in the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It was a flop. I mean, personally, if anybody wants to collect them and restore them, I wish you the best of luck. It's a piece of shit, and it should be all, you know, like I wouldn't even touch them with grain salt. just my personal opinion. I don't think they're worth saving.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And the Germans came along and said, no, we know how to build air-cooled engines and we'll prove it to you. Porsche 911, one of the best-selling Porsches for the past 70 years.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So again, that's a great example of like, no, it can't be done. It's not possible. Yeah, it is. The issue is that you're you're limiting your thought process. You're you're getting yourself in that closed box where you try something, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
This is the issue. You try something doesn't work out. That doesn't mean failure. That means you got to try a different route and see how to be able to make it work.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. i am you know i i track ah I have a Porsche that I track, but it's water-cooled, not air-cooled, so it doesn't count. To your point.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ah but What kind of Porsche you have?
::David Beckemeyer
It's ah just a Cayman. like I don't know. That's like the little but mid-engine one. It's like a Boxster, except the Cayman has a hard top.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay, is like an early: ::David Beckemeyer
No, mine's newer than that. Mine's mid. Yeah, mine's mine's the, I think the third generation of that car. ah So yeah, it was it's a little bit newer.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Ooh, okay. i By the way, it's so um it's so odd because there really is no roadsters being made in the United States anymore. You have like Miata. I mean, come on.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's a Miata. There used to be a time where like there was a lot of options besides from the German manufacturers. And – I think especially like when you're okay.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
This is the thing about like nature and car. Okay. When you're in a car and you able to race it and be on the track and you could feel the ground and you could feel the car like literally battling physics, kind of our battling physics.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um
::David Beckemeyer
yeah
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Having that ingenuity, like having that car that just does it right. And you feel that, especially when you're shifting, you're making those hard turns. There's like that thank you and that blessing of where there's an understanding.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay. This may seem like bizarre, but it's so close to what comes to play. You don't always have to make everything exactly how it is. It's supposed to allow the person be like, okay, I feel comfortable in this. I feel safe in this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, I know what this can do. Can't get that out of a Kia or a Hyundai, just saying.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I mean, I'll say that, man, Porsche does really figure out, has really figured that out. and I mean, those cars, that car does exactly that, right? It gives you this confidence. It gives you this understanding of it.
::David Beckemeyer
Like you really do feel like you can make it do whatever.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Amazing.
::David Beckemeyer
It'll do what you want it to do and in a controlled way.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
but and and when you're shifting And when you're shifting, that thing is just first, done, second, done, third. And it just moves with your hand. like i People don't understand. We're so not used to having manuals.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um And Porsches were really, really good at making manuals. I think also Mazda also, to be honest, made exceptional manuals. But being able to have that like feel to gesture to shift, don't get that out of a Ford, I promise you.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
promise.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
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::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. I mean, one thing we talk about when we're, you know, like track tracking a car like that is you you talk about like rotation, right? Where, how, how does it rotate and, you know, and different cars behave different ways.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yes.
::David Beckemeyer
And I'm telling you, man, with that came and they make that, it's so just amazing sense of control. Like if I want to rotate it, I can, but it's like, it's always in control. Like if I don't want the backend to rotate around, it doesn't, but if I want it to, it does, you know, it's just like, it's amazing how much control they give you of that car.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's so bizarre because we're talking about Porsche, right? and We have also Mercedes, BMW, and Audi. But to be honest, like I'm honestly like training to work with BMW. I'm just doing it so can have German electronics experience.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But the other manufacturers, they kind of don't have the same reliability and dependency that you get out of Porsche.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's like when you buy a Porsche, like you know that you're building the highest quality German automotive vehicle available on the market. And that's what Porsche has been doing for years. You know why?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ngs. Like they realize in the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They realize in the early: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Not the Cayenne, sorry, Cayenne.
::David Beckemeyer
Cayenne, yeah, the Cayenne.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, the Cayenne was born. But that's not closed-minded thinking. That's not being reserved. That's actually an open way of thinking. It's like, how can we be better?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
How can we take something that we're really good at and really proud of and make something better of Instead of being BMW, it's like, hey, can we make 3,000 vehicles with 1,200 modules? Yes, we can.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We got 15 models like that.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. Oh, you know, my, both my wife and I are total, you know, total car people. Her dad was like a car guy for his whole career. And so she was kind of like, we both talk about, we were sort of raised on, on motor oil, you know, and but, yet but like for me, I'm actually kind of frustrated by, I mean, there are some nice cars out there, but I'm kind of frustrated by just the right now, kind of everybody makes the same three cars, you know what i mean?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
in our blood.
::David Beckemeyer
It's just like, There's so many, the three, the midsize, the large, you know, the three SUVs.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Thank you.
::David Beckemeyer
And that's pretty much what everybody's got. Got one. And they, they really do. you know, there's a lot similar about those cars. And, and, you know, it's just like, that's the world people want. That's what sells. I get it. But I mean, boy i would like something more than just those three SUVs out there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, one is is it's really sad, too, because you have auto manufacturers that used to be really dependable at like making cool vehicles. you know A great example would be Toyota.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ok There was a time where... i mean I'm really happy they made the Supra. like Kudos to them.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
like That is BMW ingenuity meets Japanese engineering. like It's just... ah But then the only other option, you have the GT86.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
which it's just a rebadged Scion FR-S. don't care that they came out with another generation. It's a Scion FR-S. Where's the Celica? where's the you know like we're Toyota had the Spyder. They had the Spyder Mark II. They had really cool roadsters and these fiery sports cars, but not everybody can afford a $54,000
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So, and then you're giving people GT86, which to be honest, like you're better off just getting a Corolla GT.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm not like, it's cool looking. You're just buying it for the body, but it's just a Corolla.
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, well, and and even like the, the civic, um, what's the hot rod civic. Um, but let me, yeah, the type R, but you know, that that's getting up there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Type
::David Beckemeyer
They're they're like 40, 50 grand for a civic type R.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, they're closer to $70,000 here in Florida.
::David Beckemeyer
Okay. All right. So, yeah. and I mean, they like who who would think you're going to pay 70 for a Honda Civic?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
which is crazy. For Civic. Yeah, it's a Honda Civic.
::David Beckemeyer
but father
::David Beckemeyer
I mean, and they are fast. Don't get me wrong. They're fast.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They are.
::David Beckemeyer
But I mean, that's ah that's a lot of money for Honda Civic.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
market, particularly from the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
The Plymouth valian dust the Valiant, the ones that were like the base, okay? Ones that had like the purple with the white interiors, base engine, base everything. They sold for like $38,000.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I saw last one on Bring a Trailer, they sold for $32,000. Like the ones that were like the higher end, $15,000, $12,000. twelve
::David Beckemeyer
Hmph.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's because like I think people like cool cars, but at the same time, like people like that, But the issue is now is that we don't have cool meets tech and fast and affordable pricing.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
like I own a Mustang, but it's 14 years old. But like modern Mustangs are unaffordable. I think most people like in their twenty s unless you're like making pretty top dollar, it's kind of hard to afford one. Camaro's gone.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So what what are your options? BMW M4, that's $48,000 right there.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, easy by the time you get it optioned. Yeah, I would say the Mustang is still closer to that category, but but it's yeah, it's definitely on the edge. I mean, like you say, 10 years ago, it was it was easier to get an affordable Mustang.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
These days, yeah I mean, Mustangs are kind of selling around $27,000 and plus. And like, you know what? The craziest part is, again, like I'm kind of turning the tables over to politics a little bit.
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, good.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
people
::David Beckemeyer
Okay, let's do it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
People love to blame po like you know policies and rules and regulations for the reason why cars are like there the way they are today. Do you know why cars are the way that they are today here in the United States?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's solely because we spend most of the time importing. We don't, except maybe some factories and plants doing some minimal things, we don't really build cars here anymore.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We really don't. And especially when it comes to even electronic components for cars, okay? We don't build the chips here. We don't build the modules here. We don't even build the freaking wiring for these cars. Okay? We trust our enemies to build all this crap for us and don't understand why it takes weeks, delays, fees, shipping costs, and all of these things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And then what happens is manufacturers get lazy. They're like, like BMW, it's like, I don't want to use metal. I want to use plastic. It's cheaper. And they just start using plastic on everything. So...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you Again, it's like the idea of thinking. okay I know, and we both know this, it's kind of understanding the car industry. It's not anything to do with policy rules or presidency or none of that crap.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It has to do with the fact that a lot of the businesses, especially the automotive industry, are lazy as shit. And they refuse to build here because they come up with blatant excuses like, oh, it's too expensive.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh, we can't make stuff like that over here. Oh, come on.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Half the American racing industry is built in this country. Hearst, built here. Adelbrock, built here. What's their excuse?
::David Beckemeyer
yeah Is Holly still built here?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Some of it is.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I think they do they so they have some of their stuff that they've been exporting, but I think most of it's built. K&N is another example, too.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
i i There needs to be more awareness of this. that That's that's my honest my honest thinking on this.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, and, you know, and it it kind of opens up a whole bunch of different things that I'm not necessarily an expert on, but, you know, you certainly have, you know, yeah you could see that these corporations, you know, a lot of times are looking at bottom line, right? And if they really can get it for a tenth the price, or maybe they could get it, and you know, maybe that like playing field is evened out a little bit.
::David Beckemeyer
But now that all that is in place now, all those supply chains are there and it's all set up, even if they could get it cheaper, it's like, well, I don't want to redo it now. We've already figured this all out. We have this all set up. We're just going to keep doing it the way we're doing it. But because certainly there was a time period there where, you know, some of these, many of these foreign markets were offering some of these same things at like a 10th a price. So it's pretty hard for these CEOs not to do it, you know, and And you've got to, that's a, that's a, I don't know all the answers to that.
::David Beckemeyer
Like, you know, big but, but, you know, you, do you put in regulations with, I don't really like doing that. Right. You put in regulations to somehow do price fixing and stuff like that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. No, no, no, no.
::David Beckemeyer
So I don't really want to, that route, that usually just keeps making things worse.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That creates price gouging too, by the way.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, especially with dealerships trying to you know, counter offer and then being, raising prices in regards to the MSRP on the cars, you know?
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You're 100% right. I mean, you can't just keep on slapping rules and regulations to fix issues.
::David Beckemeyer
No. and Right. I mean, and yeah, you can't because it usually sort of has all these second order effects you didn't really plan for. and now you get to, and so you can't suddenly, you know, and so it's, you know, we've done a lot of things and I don't know all, I don't actually, you know, I've read about it.
::David Beckemeyer
I know some about it, but i don't know everything about all the things that have happened over the last sort of 40 or 50 years to to the way money has moved around. And you have this kind of middle America feeling like they've been left out and they have some degree, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
i don't think I don't think anybody really knows, to be honest. I'm serious.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
he is It's too much and too many lies and too many things like shoved under the rug. Like, how are you supposed to know?
::David Beckemeyer
Well, and it was something we were talking about earlier too, that I think comes back to a lot of this is that, you know, we were talking about how we've sort of put a lot of our focus on these national issues because there's a lot of reasons for that. And one of the biggest ones is, you know, the way the media world has changed, right? The media landscape now is all consolidated. So,
::David Beckemeyer
You know, they're not ah there's not as much local reporting. And and and so it's it's easier for them to only look at these national issues. And then the same nationalists go out to all their affiliates, you know, across the whole country. Right.
::David Beckemeyer
So we're all talking about something that went out that happened in Washington today or whatever. And not, you know all the things that maybe happened in our community and in our in our neighborhood, which where is.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Or in our local in our states, yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, in our states, exactly. I mean, sort of ground up. where where you know And so we we're we're losing in two fronts. One is we don't have as much agency about what they do. And you know one vote for what happens in Washington, you know it's ah so we have a representative democracy so are you know where our republic works. So my vote only votes for somebody else who then votes for me later, right? So what I can do today about that thing is I can write letters, I can all this stuff, but my agency is limited, right? I can only do so much to impact this thing they're talking about in Washington right now.
::David Beckemeyer
um And the other way around, too, right? That thing they're talking about in Washington right now probably impacts my life less than all this news media is telling me it's going to, you know, my real life. And so, like, meanwhile, there's probably a whole bunch of stuff happening at my local level, my state level, all these other things that I probably should be paying more attention to on both sides of that coin, right? Because on the agency side, I have more impact of that. I can actually go to, like, a town council meeting and I can talk to the guy that's trying to present prevent this idea.
::David Beckemeyer
I still only one vote or whatever, but I mean, I have more agency than I do. I can start, you know, a group where we go protest or talk about this thing or go before our, you know, I can do, have a lot more agency about these local things and other things. There's a pothole. We can go fix it.
::David Beckemeyer
We can also just do that, like ah and a weekend or group together. and We go fix the potholes. I mean, there's lots of things you can do in the local level that you can't I can't do it as much in in Washington and the other way around, too.
::David Beckemeyer
That thing that's happening in my town about the school district or about something else probably is going to affect my life a lot more than the stuff they're talking about in Washington. So that's a big problem that we're just putting so much energy in what's going on in Washington.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, 100%. And
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and to be honest, it's just a veil of... ah hate saying this. It's a veil of dread.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, for sure.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's a veil of... of misery, you know, and constantly putting you in that just, okay, you know, on the positive note, like again, we were talking before, there has been a lot of efforts, especially with German manufacturers over American manufacturers of trying to be helped rebuild the automotive industry here, you know, with BMW and all of their problems,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They built a plant here and those vehicles that are coming out of there are some of the most reliable BMWs you can buy right now, which is crazy. And it's because of awareness for those communities.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay. You know, and the weirness of understanding of where there's a lot of communities in the United States that rely on those jobs. They're independent shops that rely on those customers day in, day out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And, The local states are there to protect those people. you know Your local board in your counties are there to protect those people and their businesses.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And what happens outside of there is just news. you know It's like seeing CNN when you're boarding on your plane in the airports.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, like you say, it's it's kind of the doom loop thing, right? I mean, they the way they get you agitated is to get you... Everything's existential, right? This bill passes, life is over. you know This bill passes, the world's going to end kind of thing, right?
::David Beckemeyer
And, you know...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I love it.
::David Beckemeyer
and
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I love it.
::David Beckemeyer
you know and and you know Obviously, it doesn't happen. Right. That's not what happens. Right. And and if there was one of his chicken, the whole chicken little thing or whatever. Right. It's like if there was one, we wouldn't know it at this point because you told me the last seven were going to end the world. And and I don't even know what happened with him. now I can't even remember. It was like two years ago. I don't even know. Did something of that thing pass? i don't even know.
::David Beckemeyer
So, you know, you got to stop telling everybody that the world's going to end every time anything's going on somewhere. and And this is happening in political campaigns. You know, they're constantly saying this other guy that I'm running against is so terrible. If we let him do this thing, it's going to be the worst thing that ever happened to anybody.
::David Beckemeyer
And, you know, it simplifies all these. So there's so much incentive for so many these different players to do this because it kind of simplifies their life. I don't especially for a politician. Right. I don't have to say very much about what I'm going to do.
::David Beckemeyer
yeah if you subscribe, if you accidentally ever subscribe to any of those emails or text threads, it's like, you know, they never say what they're going to do. They just tell you all day long what is going on somewhere else and what somebody else is doing and how I'm going to stop it somehow.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. And it makes their job easier because then they're not really accountable to anything, you know, and, and all that stuff.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh, my God. It does. No, course not.
::David Beckemeyer
So, so, you know, and it's not healthy for us because, and you know, it's, you know, the world's going to end $75. It's basically every political message anyone's ever seen. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, ah ah kind of a flip note on this is we're, you know, you take the adult entertainment industry, okay, which federally is a crime. It's illegal.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But you have states like Nevada that has very open policies when it comes to this. Again, where it comes to state by state, county by county, community by community.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, I've had the pleasure of talking to people that are within the industry, some of the people that have been in those areas. They're very respectful people. They know their industry. You know people are like, oh my God, they're trafficking children.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Not all of them are trafficked. See what the media does? It like paints this picture on something that, yes, we as human beings have this desire and stuff.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
like And there's definitely an industry there to cater to those things, which my personal opinion, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If done safely and securely and properly. But federally, it's illegal.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But in those communities that this is how people thrive, this is how they make money, this is how they put bread on the table.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They have that understanding within their community. So that is where you kind of have to ask yourself this. Do you want to put yourself in the world's problems or do you want to put yourself in the problems that are actually affecting you on a day-to-day basis?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like the community you're living in, like, is this an affordable place that I can buy a house? Does this community respect in regards to me going to doctors that won't abuse me?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and just feed off of big pharma and just push me with medications? Is this a community that I can raise my children freely, that they're not being forced agendas and opinions based on political beliefs?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
All of these things should be coming to factor. Like, where are you living? Like, is that community aligning to who you want to be, who you want to raise your family to be?
::David Beckemeyer
Right. And if you're going to pick those larger issues, you know, sort of for the world, I think you kind of got to pick your battles, right? You can't be involved in all of them.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No.
::David Beckemeyer
You can't be a champion for every single thing that's out there because, you you know, you're you there's not enough resources.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No.
::David Beckemeyer
you know we just be And that's why I think that's part of why people are so stressed out, right? they're they're They keep getting told all these things are happening and they know they don't have that much agency to do much with them. And so we feel kind of helpless because all this stuff is kind of just happening around us um and it's all kind of doom all the time, right?
::David Beckemeyer
um So, yeah, that, that, that's, that's a challenge. And, you know, we talk about, you know just trying to be more mindful of all that because there's so many people out there kind of, that's, they have incentives to do that, to get you excited, to sort of, you know i don't know if you like the system one, system two thinking kind of thing.
::David Beckemeyer
Once you trigger your emotions, your sort of system two, more thoughtful part of your brain kind of deactivates. And now you're just operating on emotion and, and fear. And they know that, like, this is not an accident.
::David Beckemeyer
They know that's how that works.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No.
::David Beckemeyer
And so, you know, and that and that that just, so if you're more mindful about it it, can be a little bit easier. If you kind just remember that, like, if you're going to go watch TV or something, news program, or going to go read, you know, just go in with a mindful attitude that they're probably going to try to rile me up, right? So just kind of keep that in mind.
::David Beckemeyer
And then you can kind of, when they when they do start riling you up, that can kind of be the trigger to say, maybe there's more to this story. I probably need to look into this a little bit more because usually there is, almost always there is, right? Same with like you were talking about clickbait headlines and all that, right? I mean, clickbait headlines are 100% designed literally for the clickbait thing. I mean, they're generally created by algorithms these days, right?
::David Beckemeyer
I mean, they do a bunch of A-B b testing. They may have humans, you know, trying writing up the versions of it, but they just do tons and tons of A-B testing and then, and they keep improving that headline until the one that, you know, gets the most clicks, you know, keeps being there, right?
::David Beckemeyer
Often by the time that happens, it the headline has very little do with the article at the end. And the poor guy that wrote the article many times is mad about it too, because they didn't write the headline, right? Somebody somebody else in the marketing department wrote the headline.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
du You touching on this, and I know i know this is a very touchy topic, but I just want to bring this up as just reference. um I was listening to JRE episode with Dave Smith and Douglas muing Murray, whatever his name is,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And they were touching on a topic which is kind of interesting, right? A lot of the times we start getting into these conversations about situations that are happening like in Israel, that are happening in Ukraine, or what's happening in Russia, or what's happening in India.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But a lot of the times those people don't even have family or actually any connection with the place. example, for me, i actually have family that lives in Israel. Most of my family lives there. So it kind of pisses me off. It's like, hey,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
i i have like I feel like I can be pissed off like about world issues, right? Because that's affecting me. Like we were saying earlier, like how there are things that happen in government that, oh my God, like this bill is being passed, but it doesn't really affect me.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But then when you start painting a picture about something that's actually affecting me, That's a whole different story. you know And then you start asking yourself, there are people that are quote unquote representing you, right? Like those politicians.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But i we didn't ask you to represent us. We didn't ask you to speak on our behalf. That's not even politicians. You have celebrities, have comedians, have journalists, you have news anchors. It's like no one asked you.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. Who gave you permission to to take over the public square, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right. we're again we' were i Again, as a libertarian, my thinking is always we're stay local because that's the most important. That's where you're spending most of your time. That's where you're working and spending most of your life.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But when you have like things that are outside of your local community that's important to you, that affects you, either family or connection or anything that correlates you to that community,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't know. I feel like maybe that is the human human mindset. It's just we like to stick our fingers in places where we shouldn't. No pun intended.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, ah yeah there's there's probably some truth to that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Hmm.
::David Beckemeyer
i you know I've talked to lots and lots of scientists about different things, social scientists, psychologists, political scientists. I don't remember that coming up, but now that you mention it, and maybe that is part of our psychology. Because many of the things I talk about in my show are some of our kind of innate kind of behaviors, right?
::David Beckemeyer
I mean, and the confirmation bias, all these kinds of things, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, I can see this. Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
and that kind of stuff and tribalness. But yeah, that's an interesting one. So yeah, we we, we, we, maybe that, maybe that has to do with trying to find a purpose sort of like I've, I need to you know, my purpose is to sort of go help these people in this, with this problem or kind of thing. I don't know. That's interesting to study the psychology behind that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And, you know, one thing i kind of disagree with where you don't actually, you know, people say like, oh, you know, if you haven't visited a place or you haven't been there, you can't talk about it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, i kind of disagree with that.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, obviously, i have family here that hasn't been New York. been to Israel. so But we again, we still have family there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know what I'm saying? like That is the correlation. That's the connection. that
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But at the same... This is the crazy part. like But at the same time, it's like when you... Besides this, whenever you talk about even like mental health issues or you talk about a disorder or something, like you don't realize that there are other people that are actually being affected by this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And sometimes you don't realize that when you're talking about those things and you don't have that direct connection um that's what i'm going to call it the direct connection to it, it can come off as being cross.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Make sense? Right.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I mean, I guess part of it is it's any talking about any sensitive topic can be hard. Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right.
::David Beckemeyer
And even everybody that's well-intentioned and, you know, many times people are well-intentioned and they're, you know, often they're even reasonably informed and they can still be really hard. It's still be really hard.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. And I think that's certainly one thing I learned in working in this space for a while now is, you know, the best intention people, even well-informed can still just completely, you know, just the whole thing can just turn into a tornado. It can just be a mess. And, and, you know, not as much happens because it's just, like you say, it's kind of the way humans are to a degree.
::David Beckemeyer
Um, and things can kind of unravel and and we don't realize we're doing it. I think that's one of the big things. There's this ah bunch of different phenomenon about this, but like, you know you can see this thing in other people, like when they're doing it, they're being toxic or they're, throwing out some kind of language and, and this kind of thing.
::David Beckemeyer
And then you start doing it right after that. And you don't even realize you just talked about the thing and now you're doing it, but you just don't see it in yourself when you're doing it. It's really, it's really hard.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. You know, it ah I don't know if you've seen this meme. It's a news anchor from Uganda. It's from many, many years ago where he had this gay activist that came on this ah television show.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And he's like introducing, introducing her. And then oh he turns over to her and he's like, why are you gay? So tell me. Why are you gay?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, like that was, you know, like no, like sugarcoating. No, like, hey, let's ease into this. this like Like, just straight in there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I just like to me, honestly, like that just shows like the differences within people. Like when you go to different societies and different cultures, know, There's just a whole different thinking. you know i could tell you a so could tell you as a person, like I've dealt with Europeans, especially Scandinavians.
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Try being sarcastic with somebody from Germany. Try. Try. They're going to get insulted really quickly. I promise you. they Because in their culture, it doesn't exist. They don't and don't understand. like Why are you insulting me? like i remember he's like...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Why you do this? Stop. Why you do this?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And you don't realize, because you get so ingrained in doing it so often that you, like you said, you don't realize how it's affecting other people.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, yeah, and you don't realize the framing that goes with it, right? I mean, we're all...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Mm-mm.
::David Beckemeyer
all there's all all this that's happened around us all this experience all these all these inputs that have been going on for our whole lives ah you know kind of framing framing everything we're doing right and and the other person if you go to this new space hasn't had that same framing right so even even within a micro level that's sort of true right i mean my neighbor has a different experience you know this kind of thing but then when you do it like that like it's a whole culture and it's a whole you know whole world of different language, different words, different thinking of the world, it's different perspectives, different frames.
::David Beckemeyer
So that now it's a whole different problem. Yeah. You, cause you, cause you bring that stuff with you and you just don't know you're doing it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I think the biggest issue is that most Americans haven't lived outside of the U.S. I lived outside of the U.S. for a few years, and I think this is the reason why I'm able to like be able to understand this to a certain level.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
America is very unique in the sense that there's no other place in the world that's like this. like I have a best friend of mine that lives in Britain. okay She lives Manchester.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And and if you've ever been to Manchester, yeah kind of reminds you of Chim Chimining from like Mary Poppins. Because they're a working class city.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. right
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's brick, grey, dull, underground, gritty, very artsy, fartsy. it And it it like as an American, like you say like, oh, yeah, we have this too. But no, no, no, no. You're not understanding this. All right. Like this is a society of people that has been working class since the city has been built. Like that's all they've ever been.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
okay like You don't have that here in this country at all. like You have places that have like Atlanta. You have Memphis. You have Nashville. You have um New York. You have Chicago. You have Los Angeles. You have Las Vegas. You have all of these places.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
we just don't understand the outside world. We just don't.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and and living there probably is even more, but at at least spending time there, you know, maybe a little bit longer than a two-day vacation. Because two-day vacation, you can get a pretty surface view of a place, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, yeah, ah totally totally, totally, totally, yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
But yeah, I mean, it's definitely true. I mean, you travel the world, you definitely get a different—you you you see more of this, right? you what is somebody Somebody said something about this. You know, when you travel the world, you you know you spend you know three weeks in London or wherever.
::David Beckemeyer
ah You know, you learn more about your hometown than you do about London in some ways, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You do. You really do. Because the thing is, British culture is very classism. It's built on classes. You know, i I lived in Israel for three years.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And in Israel, I'll be very honest, like when you have two corrupt governments that are running a country, you realize a lot of the times... You have civilians that suffer the same way that you have in Britain.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
okay For me to have my best friend living in Manchester where she's been dealing with a leg injury and because of how the social care exists in Britain, she has to wait weeks and then she has to find the doctor and then she has to wait until she gets approval.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and i mean, she had to have her her ex-boyfriend take care of her for like six months. you know like Yeah, obviously like she's got like socialized medicine and things are cheaper, but look what she's got to deal with with a ah fractured leg injury that, instead of taking just a couple of months, took like over a year.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
See what I mean?
::David Beckemeyer
Right. There's always two sides to these things, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
it's like we were saying before, when you research these things, there's always more to it than the then your surface view of it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
There is. And it doesn't give you a preplex view. it kind of gives you an understanding as to... kind of how the corruption and the existence of how we do things in the United States exist.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Because a lot of the things that we do here in the States is based off of fear. Okay, the reason like again, just just based off of my like thinking and just the way I've kind of viewed things, why do you think we don't have socialized care? It's because years ago they realized, okay, socialized care, we can't control it as much.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So we should keep it privatized. They realized that you can't have government being on top of big pharma because then you can't get medications and things out. OK, so you got to separate big pharma and then kind of incorporate with government.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So there's a logic. This is bananas. There's a logic behind the corruption. Like there's a reason why these systems are set up, because I think the outside view is like, OK, you see how that's working, but we can't really control that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So we can't really control that. Then we can't use
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. Well, it's certainly true that, you know, sort of water flows downhill, right? I mean, oftentimes people think there's a massive conspiracy somewhere and Mr. Burns is sitting in a tower coming up with all these things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. Nope.
::David Beckemeyer
Many times it's just all these random things happen together.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Nope.
::David Beckemeyer
And, you know, so I mean, one of the journalist guys I had on says, you know, the biggest conspiracy is all of all is no one knows what the heck is going on. you don't want No one knows what they're doing. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
oh No, and honestly- Seriously.
::David Beckemeyer
You know, but that's kind of what happens, right? There's some end result. There's some end state that no one really drew out. Like that wasn't the end state anyone was trying to get to. But all these, you know, different events along the way got you there.
::David Beckemeyer
And that's why sometimes it's hard to unpeel that stuff because even figuring out what all those events that got you there were can be really hard to unpeel it to to make it go away. Like, you know, you look at the, you know, it's one thing about we were talking about the medical, and the the socialized medicine and in the UK is is more complicated than you might think on first glance.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It is.
::David Beckemeyer
It's true of, you know, this that the, the, the, and pretty much every issue. I mean, that's the biggest thing that I've learned in this show is that I've been much more selective about taking some kind of a hot take on something or even just getting really, I'm going to fight for this thing and because I really understand it or I really care about it.
::David Beckemeyer
um I've reduced that number of the things I've liked that a lot because, you know, many times you you don't know as much as you think you know about it. and And you, you know, read a few headlines, you read a few wiki pages and now you think you know something.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No.
::David Beckemeyer
and You know, and it's almost always way more complicated than that. so for me, it's like many times people ask me like about some issue and I'm like, well, I'm not an expert on that. Like, I think I kind of know it, but I bet I could be persuaded. I mean, I don't know for sure. I'm not going like go, you know, dig in a line on that. So I'm very selective now about where will I really trench in on a thing, right?
::David Beckemeyer
Because I just realized how much I don't know. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, and that that's what I was touching on before. It's where if you localize what you care about, and again, this is kind of where this podcast kind of comes along, and I think the same thing with your podcast too.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We're taking what is important to us, what matters in our lives, what gives us life, what feeds our soul. and we give that out to the world.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
For me, you know, it's interviewing artists such as yourself, being able to create incredible things, whether it be a paintbrush or thought or even film or even making music or anything of those things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's It's so powerful when you stop with the bullshit, you know, and you realize what is important to you and what isn't important to you.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And still, I think it's so important to have those connections, relationships with people that think completely different than you do.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You need that. You know, i can't ah can't imagine just being surrounded by one type of people all the time. Like, that's just, it's like wasting your life. don't know.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That's just, it's boring.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and and that's another thing, that the the idea of locally doing it, if possible, right? I mean, if you live in an area that's purple or whatever, you know that there's some people that have different views.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
It's much easier. i won't say easier isn't the right word, but you can be much more effective knowing real people. Like, they're in your neighborhood, and they have kids, and they're like normal people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Thank you.
::David Beckemeyer
Like, okay, they see the they see political things differently, but at least you're starting off on some base. Like, oh, we you know we we kind of live in the same neighborhood, so we share that, we share... Other things we probably care about the roads. There's probably lots of stuff we care about.
::David Beckemeyer
And we we go hang out with them. Maybe we play golf or we play video games or whatever we do. So we know them as a regular person first. And then, you know, we can start talking about, why do you see this issue, you know differently than me?
::David Beckemeyer
I think it's much harder, you where they say it's hard to hate up close, right? So, I mean, it's a lot easier to hate online from 3,000 miles away. But i so I do think if you you, know, and it could be hard to have those relationships, but if you can have those kind of relationships in your life, you're right that it does.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It is.
::David Beckemeyer
it it's It can really soften, you know, some of that. All the people that are thinking like this are wrong and they're idiots or they're evil. Worse, you know, we actually believe they're evil, right? and that That they're they're trying to, they're on some mission to take the world down or whatever, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I think it it also falls down to this idea that like liberals are bad. OK, I completely disagree. I think some of the most wonderful people are liberals.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I think this idea of disdaining people and putting them down because of their beliefs, it's like there are wonderful conservatives and liberals. you know There's a wonderful mix of all sorts of people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's You've got to get out of your mindset where, man, and just because you see a bunch of them protesting and acting like a bunch of idiots doesn't mean all of them are a bunch of idiots.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know you can't You can't clump everybody.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. And again, it kind of comes back to the news media is going to show us the most radical, the most outrageous stuff. Right. I mean, that's so that's what we that we think that's happening everywhere and everybody's like that.
::David Beckemeyer
No, if there were 100 people in that crowd and two people were kind of acting up, well, who are they going to show you? Right. They're not going to show you the other guys over there having a calm conversation. no one no one wants to see that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
oh
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. No, because it it doesn't, it's not clickbaity enough. It doesn't pull enough media. that You know what? I think what the internet has taught us more than anything else, and think this is why we've kind of entered the age of podcasting and open conversations, people don't want to deal with the bullshit anymore. You know, people are kind of fed up and tired.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I don't I don't blame you. I mean, when you're spoon for this lie. You know, you know what took me to finally have the light switch to turn on was when I realized that the same things that were coming out of rfk ah JFK's mouth.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
in: ::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay, minus civil rights and a few other things. It's exactly the same. So then you have to say to yourself, okay, that was over 60 years ago. So it doesn't, what am I doing?
::David Beckemeyer
yeah
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, this doesn't matter. and really, it's
::David Beckemeyer
i'm fast I'm fascinated when I see that. Like i i like you say, you see some some video of some something that happened in the 60s and you're like, that conversation could have been yesterday, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, literally was yesterday, 60 ago.
::David Beckemeyer
No, yeah, it's it's crazy when you see that. I know it does really try to put something in perspective. you know Yeah, it is wild. It's very true. And I'm i'm sure you know i sometimes you go back and forth on that, right? You see some of these debates that were happening like in roman in Roman times or something.
::David Beckemeyer
You're like, that conversation could have happened yesterday somewhere right in America. It's like, that's how long we've been having these kinds of conversations.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And it's weird because almost there's some ideas. i wanted to touch on this, too. There's some ideas even from ancient times where we view it as profanity.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And an abomination, even though thousands of years ago was not considered. kind of just like a little touch on this, which is so fascinating with the Romans, is that Romans didn't view whores.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
nd stuff. it's like. That was: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, you have to ask yourself, OK, if people are like, oh, well, it was different back then. I'm like. I'm starting to think that people have always been the same. It's just the differences is we got electricity and.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And tech and cities like I mean we're we're for the same people mean we're we are now No No,
::David Beckemeyer
No, we are. Yeah. The brains have not really changed. You know, we know, we know this and not really changed for a couple hundred thousand years. Um, and, Yeah, and you know and i I think what this is pointing to is one thing is that what does change are like the norms, right? You talked about something you know in Roman times or some other ancient times you know was not taboo then and like it's taboo now.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it was very open
::David Beckemeyer
And that's what changes all the time. And that's what I think where we go through these cycles of norm changes and it freaks people out. It's scary. Like the world's going to be different after these norm changes. But you know, and and of course you don't really see it happening. You kind of wake up on the other side of it, but I think we're constantly kind of going through that. And sometimes it's a wave where there's kind of a lot of norms being threatened.
::David Beckemeyer
Sometimes there's a wave where things kind of stay the same for 50 years or whatever, or ish, you know, more the same for a few generations. And and I think that's, you know, we're going through that now just as much as anywhere else, there'll be some kind of equilibrium of new norms. Who knows? I don't know what they're going to be.
::David Beckemeyer
and I'm not that smart, ah but you know, I can't predict it, but I think we're going through that. I think we're looking and it's probably scary for all a lot of us like, oh, what are these new norms going to look like? If you like you say, if you sort of dropped off somebody from the 40s, dropped them off now.
::David Beckemeyer
I mean, they think we're a bunch of, you know, post states and and ah we're we're like, you know, we should all go to hell right away. Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. and and But I think that's just, and but we just consider this as normal now. This is how what normal looks like. So i think I think we're going through a phase like that now where we're in the middle of these norms being updated.
::David Beckemeyer
And i just don't we don't know where it's going to land, but we'll find some new equilibrium and then that's the world we'll live we'll we'll deal with.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's really strange because we kind of r causing that change to happen without even realizing it.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And ah as a person that's also interviewed like interviewed people that are in the underground and indie scenes, filmmaking and music, it's no longer really underground anymore because...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ah We have the internet and they have access to things that they needed in a middleman. you know They needed some type of promoter of some kind to be able to get things out. You don't really need that anymore.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know You just need this and a a computer, ah phone. Good.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Good to go.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and the bar is lowering and lowering, right? I mean, like you said, you could pretty much do it all with a phone nowadays.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. I mean, if I wanted to, I could do this on a phone. But then again, wouldn't be able to hear like the good, sweet sound.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, but it's getting there. I mean, it's the kind of thing that you you could you could see that you know you could produce a pretty high-quality thing with modern phone pretty soon, I think.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Well, there was... um um i had somebody who was telling me this. There was an indie film that came out last year that was made with, a I believe, an iPhone or a Samsung product.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
they They obviously use like high quality, like lighting and stuff, you know, it's just a regular, but the whole film was done just with the phone.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And what was bananas was he was telling me that the budget actually was more than like projected.
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, really?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, it was more, but it was very high quality. was very well made. With a smartphone. I mean, you're right. Like we we are at a stepping stone. We're I. OK, I don't want to get like all heebie jeebie, know, and so that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But we are kind of moving to a new form of power. And energy. which, believe it or not, that actually does shape a society. We're probably are going to be moving more to a time where they're going to probably start doing more things in space.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
A lot more jobs are going to be carparmentalized. Like, for example, we're talking about the automotive industry. um We no longer, they're like, the mechanics are kind of dead. can it like It's now automotive technicians.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And then what that's going to basically turn into is you're going to be an auto technician. So you'll be able to do diagnostics, repairs, pretty much everything that right now takes four or five people to do.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
A lot of things are going to start getting like that. So it's it's a matter of either being ahead of the curb or being behind. And it doesn't mean like, oh, you need to stuff yourself with all the media and crap. What it it is is that you got to like realize, hey, man, the reason why we have all this corruption and crap and all this chaos with government, they're stuck in the past.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Guess what? I don't want to be stuck in the past. I want to be stuck in the future.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, think we're seeing that with the media landscape, you know, you were sort of talking about that, that, you know, the new, the way the world works now is, is really changing and the new, and you know, traditional media has always kind of controlled that.
::David Beckemeyer
Like you said, you yeah had to have a producer, you had to have this, you had to have that. You you were all, you couldn't be allowed in without these seven things. And, you know, and that world is is a hundred percent changing.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. I mean, um, and, you know There's good things about it and bad things about it, right? and And that's freaking a lot of people out too, right? Because you've got the information landscape, you can bubble up, you can filter bubble yourself into a world where you're not getting very but diverse opinions.
::David Beckemeyer
But at the same time, there's also some of the best journalism happening anywhere is happening in some of these smaller circles and some of these smaller ah producers. um and creatives. And, you know, I don't know exactly what that looks like either, but I mean, I i i think ultimately that's where's where we're going.
::David Beckemeyer
So if you want to stick your, you know, head in the sand and say, I'm just going to keep doing the thing I used to do, you know, youre those days are gone. those that that Those days are numbered.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, and you know, I'll be honest with you, like being in vocational school and being around a lot of my classmates, a lot of them don't care about electronics. And, you know, obviously, like I'm a lot older than they are, but I keep on being that person, keep telling them, like, hey, if you're not interested in doing that, guess what? You're in the wrong industry.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you're not going to have a future. I guarantee you're going spit in and spit out quicker than quick. And, you know, people could be like, well, you know, it's taking away jobs.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's... It's evolving jobs.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
so It's not taking away jobs. It's evolving jobs. It's making things more efficient, okay? Making it where there's less margin of error, where we can maybe get to a place where instead of it, like we said, where you have to go through six or seven people. It could take a year or two years to make things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Now you can do them in a lot quicker. It can allow us to be able to take care of things a lot sooner and a lot quicker than we were able to do before, especially local. You know, imagine a world where we switch away from this like worldwide social media to more of a local social media that focuses on your local communities. That could be our future, by the way. That is a reality that we don't think about.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. Oh, you know, I think there's lots of potential things that can, I mean, you know, we think social media has been around forever, right? It feels like it's like, oh, it's a set stone. It's going to be like this forever.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No,
::David Beckemeyer
It's like, we're very on the beginnings of where we're all, you know, whatever we might call social media or whatever we have now, we call social media, what,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's very new.
::David Beckemeyer
but whatever the landscape and the tools and the technology looks like, you know, in the future is, I think, you know, going to be massively different. It's got to be massively different. We know this way it isn't working that great. We need to do some things better. Right.
::David Beckemeyer
and And I think there's a lot of opportunity there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, sure.
::David Beckemeyer
I was curious, you know, just to kind of go off on a couple of weird things like in the auto tech world.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah sure
::David Beckemeyer
So, So like, you know, well, and this kind of makes me think of like, you know, forever, we my whole lifetime pretty much you've been told automation is going to take away jobs and, you know, and, and and and um you know, computers are going to take away jobs and all these kinds of things. Right.
::David Beckemeyer
and and the And there was always going to be these and unskilled workers, not the word for it, but, you know, kind of blue collar jobs are going to go away first. But it's kind of the other way around. Like as AI builds, it's the white collar jobs that are going away first or these mid-level management jobs that are going away first. Right.
::David Beckemeyer
And that's the stuff that like the software can actually do really pretty well. Like it's you can kind of script it and get it to work. um So, you know, what's what's your take? Like people always said it's the robots we got to worry about, right? But maybe thepe maybe it's the robots that are kind of last thing. And it's really the, it's going to be like, could you see a world where, you know, the human tech more or less sits at a menu and the computer just tells them what to do, which bolts to take off? Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, I honestly, i see where humans are still going to have jobs, probably a lot more than we think. You know what? We were touching on the automotive industry. I'll tell you one thing that's amazing, right? Porsche.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They have a program. It's a VR program for auto for automotive technicians where they can put this thing on. And by the way, as somebody like leaks... Leaks are, as we say, the devil's work because it's a lot of testing. Sometimes it's not around sensors. You're not always getting like error codes or, but what Porsche has figured out is they've created this VR headset that uses ai and artificial intelligence where it turns the car into a skeleton.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And you could zoom into the areas that could be the areas that are causing the leak and you can see it in real time using augmented reality. That is something that's incredible.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And i i'm I'm kind of like more of a realist and a little bit more optimistic with this. What this means is that we're entering a future where machine and human intuition are going to become more intertwined, where we can become more sophisticated with these machines. Like just imagine where that tech is gonna be for the automotive industry in 10 years from now.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh my God, it's gonna be crazy.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and you can see how fast all that's changed. And that's another space where it's like, um you know the for all these for what well what what would we call it? What gen of that would we call Are we sort of in a third gen of of of that that kind of stuff now?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We, um, it's gen beta. That's the current generation now. It's gen beta. Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, because i mean you think of those first headsets and stuff, and it was kind of garbage, and it was super cool. Like, oh, it's fun. I can play a game in there or whatever. But yeah, it's still just infinitesimal where where where it is and where it's going to go. It's the same way with you know all this all the, um you know you think about these language models and the stuff they're already doing.
::David Beckemeyer
We have to remember, this is as bad as it's ever going to be.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's gonna get a lot better. I mean, we we don't realize also like with a, first of don't have true AI. ah We have what's called, it's language-based programming network, which in plain simple English is a very, very long program that is able to input and output outside of its parameters based on like whatever requirements are put in.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's very complex, but it's still code. It's just text. Input, output. That's it. That's pretty much what it is. So it is very much in its infancy. Like what we considered like AGI, like the next generation of this is autonomous.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's going to become autonomous. That's the only way for it to actually become beneficial. People are like, oh my God, it's going to take over the world. Do you understand how beneficial that is for it to become autonomous for an automotive technician? Again, because like this is kind of the industry I'm going into.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I can be trying to diagnose a vehicle and I'm frustrated as heck. And I can be like, hey, Jarvis, umm I'm like struggling over here. Can you help me kind of figure this out? And I'll go through the network and kind of figure it along with me.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So instead of having where technicians have to rely on other people constantly, you can have that second input that's working autonomously from you within that system. Like there are those benefits.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
agree. There are those negatives, but there are those benefits. And I can kind of see where the future is going, even though like we can't really, sorry, they can't really predict the future.
::David Beckemeyer
No, but yeah, you know, to yeah, but yeah, it's it interesting. I was kind of, yeah, I think that there's a lot going on there. I think with the, you know, I've had several folks from the AGI world on my show talking about, know, where this might go or where it won't go.
::David Beckemeyer
And, and, you know, and, you know, and there's a lot of doomsayers and all that kind of stuff out there. Right. And, and who knows, those scenarios could play out, I guess, but I don't, I don't think any, anybody knows, but, um but yeah, I feel like the,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It could be.
::David Beckemeyer
The whole what ah how automation is going to work in real life, like, is so, it reminds me like, when you go back to some of these, the where's the you know, these things from in the fifty s and say, this is the future, what the future is going to look like, right?
::David Beckemeyer
ah Some of them are remarkably good. Like, they had just people using screens and doing basically Zoom calls. Like, they got a lot of stuff right. And then other stuff is just like, it's so wrong.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Meet George Jetson.
::David Beckemeyer
Like, it never went. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Do, do, do,
::David Beckemeyer
yeah yeah but yeah the cartoons i think got it better than the the the professionals you know the the futurists but i think we're just
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I love the Jetsons. It's so classy. It's so fun. But i think if we're talking about I think if we're talking about TV shows, I think one that got it really right was Star Trek.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm going to say that.
::David Beckemeyer
yeah okay well that's a pretty optimistic view i mean if that's where things go i mean that that's also though a pretty um
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What do you think?
::David Beckemeyer
you know, crunchy view, right? I mean, everyone gets along and we have diversity everywhere and everybody's happy about it. So, I mean, that's a pretty, you know, that, you know, maybe we can get there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But there still is corruption within the Federation. that That is the thing that I like about Star Trek is like they're not 100 percent kosher.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They still go invade other planets when these species don't want to be bothered.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and it's like And it's like, oh my God, like where our ship is getting attacked. It's like yo they don't like, they don't want to be bothered. Like, leave them alone. And they just keep going.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But what I think they got right was in regards to artificial intelligence. I think we're going to move more towards where we don't have phones in front of us. like They're like, oh, they they didn't they did kind of predict it.
::David Beckemeyer
right
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
where like This is a very early version of how this technology works to a point where... You're not going to need a screen to do a lot of the things your phone does. You'll be environment so you'll be able to do all of those things like that.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. yeah It's similar to what i was talking about with the cars. When they first started putting computers in the cars, they had to really kind of let everybody know by making them talk and do weird stuff and beep all the time. And, you know, and like i say, and now the the computers are just kind of there doing their thing and we don't know what's happening. And I think it'll there's more of that going to happen, right? where And that's already happened. Think about it, right? All the stuff you're looking, you probably look around your room right now and think how many CPUs are there and all these various devices.
::David Beckemeyer
They're just kind of doing their thing on their own, right? I don't need to go go tell them what to do all the time.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, you don't have to at all. it's um I was thinking about what we were talking about with cars. you You talk about the early generations of computers, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Fun fact, there was a car called the Cadillac Elante, which its wiring and modules weighed more than the actual like engine in the car.
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That was kind of the early adoption, you know, where that's what it it took to power something like that. But we've moved so past that and you're so right. Like we're very much in the early stages of this. Even podcasting is really new.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I mean, a i think like also kind of what we're doing is also very new. People are very used to being in the same room in regards to recording. Being able to do this virtually and still very much naturally is something that did not exist eight years ago.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ke Try doing this on Skype in: ::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Good luck.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It was bad.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. I mean, it is, it is like, like we were kind of saying, it's amazing how much has changed in like the last 25 or 30 years, but like, we're still so much in the beginning of it. Right. I mean, like we feel like, oh yeah, we're always going to have an iPhone or whatever.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We are...
::David Beckemeyer
Right. Well, no, mean the, before the iPhone, there was other stuff. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
There was ah there is landlines. Oh my God. There was payphones. You know, it's crazy. Like looking back in the past and it's like, I'm 26 years old, right? And I remember when we had, we had to use payphones to call outside of this country.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And today you just go on WhatsApp and you can call somebody that's 10,000 miles away i It's weird to be somebody in their 20s and I can actually relate to like, oh, wow that is That's a crazy shift in such a short period of time to go where you have to like physically buy a card and like have reserved minutes to, oh, I can just instantaneously open something up and then I can call whoever I want, wherever they are.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and it's gotten easy enough that you know a 70-year-old can do it. like you don't it's not all It's accessible.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
to anyone.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, because there was a time when you had to be pretty geeky to do a lot of that stuff, right? You had to go find your geek friend to set it up for you, but now it's pretty much anybody can figure it out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
i I remember when um when we had iPods, and back then, like you you kind of had to be a little techie to understand how these things worked. Because you know you have to know like how to plug it into your computer and then download iTunes, which was not as easy as Apple made it out to be back in those days.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
like you You sometimes have to get the disk. Yeah. I remember this, you had to get the disc and put it in and sometimes the disc would get dirty and you have to clean it, put it back in there and it wouldn't load.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Then finally, would finally download. Then you have to figure out how to like buy the songs and then put them on your... It was a process, okay? Like you needed that geek friend to like show you exactly how to do this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You open Spotify. Done. You put on but on any song you want.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Instant. And again, that's like 15 years. and What's even bananas is before the iPods, we had CD players. Before CD players, we had tape recorders. Before tape recorders, we had record players and A-Track.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
This is like... This is such a short period of time. you know they we We don't understand that progress is very slow, extremely slow, like to the point that from the year 10,000 to
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
same bullshit, same crap, same plague, people living in their feces.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But we're living in era where every decade, this just keeps on keeps on building and building and building and getting more and more and more advanced as we go.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and changing. Right. I mean, look they're making generations shorter, right? I mean, it used to be, you know, when they talk about when they start labeling generations, and it's like, you know, now it's like ah eight years or something. It's getting so short, like the different data the difference between Gen Alpha and Gen Z is like this, the window is just getting smaller and smaller because I guess so much is changing in those in those spaces that the generations have just all these kind of differences about their traits and habits and so on because the world they grew up in is so different.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
r. Once you get past the year: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
one that grew up in the early: ::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
nge that happened in like the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay. So there's also that disconnect. And the other thing, by the way, we were talking about music earlier. We don't really have a decade genre anymore. You know how like each decade kind of had its thing?
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, right. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's not a thing. It's not a thing anymore.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, that's true. I didn't think about that. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right? Right?
::David Beckemeyer
And that's probably to do with something like, you know, the fact that just there's so much more music. You know, it used to be you sort of had the radio. You listen to the same, that the top 50, the top 100, whatever. And that's all, you know.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
1.8.5 coming to you live.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah
::David Beckemeyer
you know So that's kind of mostly what you were exposed to.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Good times.
::David Beckemeyer
And now, yeah, you like you say, you call Spotify and the world is your oyster, right? Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You can listen to artists from the 80s. This is crazy. You can listen to art artists from the 80s from Italy that never even came to the United States.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, do you know how wild that is?
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, try to tell that to somebody in the like early 90s. Like, hey, man, you ever heard of this like local Italian band that's like in Tappoli?
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Who? Like, where? What? We didn't have access. Nobody had access like this. You had whatever was available in in local store. Same thing, by the way, with videos and films. Okay? I remember where you wanted to watch a movie.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Hollywood videos and Blockbuster.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They didn't have it they didn't have it. What are you going to do
::David Beckemeyer
right
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Go buy it if they have it in the store. Like, come on, who's going to spend like $25, you know, ah he on a DVD?
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But it's it's true. Like you have access to so much more information. And you know what? I think that there are people in the higher-ups that are terrified of that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And that's kind of why things are kind of shaping out to the way that they are, is because of that. They're scared. They know that they're losing control.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. Yeah, it's kind of back to the media thing we were talking about before that I think the you know the media world is definitely in for a shakeup.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They're dying. I mean, i can tell you as somebody that's surrounded by teenagers, none of them listen to... Any form of media. They don't care.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They're not interested.
::David Beckemeyer
And do you do you think that's a cynicism thing or what do you think?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They say the same thing. They say the same thing. It's like it's full of lies and bullshit. Why on earth should I wage my waste my time on this?
::David Beckemeyer
Hmm. and Okay. So that i I would call that cynicism. Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
A little bit, yeah. But the truth is when you have young people that go through a pandemic, you know, in my case, I also went through the recession in New York at a young age.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you You kind of say yourself, like, stop telling me what you're going to do. Like, I don't care anymore. Like, you've lied. You've told false stories. You've gone back on your word multiple times. Like, it's enough. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know what? Let me like I said, I want to focus on what I actually can do. Like what I can do is I can help give a voice to artists of all kinds. And I can do that here. You know, I can be the type of person around my friend group that I'm the open person that people can talk to.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
These are things that I can do as a person. I don't need them anymore to like make me feel better as an American. I know who I am as an American and I'm proud of it.
::David Beckemeyer
Or to give you permission to do it. That's
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
don't need permission. got my amendments.
::David Beckemeyer
what I'm saying.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, or you you don't need to join a certain club and get a certain certification and you know this kind of thing, right? Or find, like you say, find the producer that's willing to you know put it out on the right channels or whatever, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. And I think what is the most amazing thing about this is it's coming from us and from like directly from us.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
The reason that you're able to engage and be able to vibe and be able to have those connections with people is because you're able to make this. You're able to be the one that works towards this instead of like having people know you can't do this. What do you mean? I can't do this. I want to do this. Why why are you stopping me?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
why Why are you telling me what to do? Why can't I do what I want to do?
::David Beckemeyer
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the world we're headed in where, where there's so much more opportunity for that, right? There's so much, there's so many more avenues to, to do, do the, do the creative stuff you want to do.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So much more.
::David Beckemeyer
So, you know, one thing we talk about on my show a lot is kind of, and not a lot, but it's one of the topics we kind of, in my sort of set of things,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. I'd love to get into your podcast, by the way. Yeah, please.
::David Beckemeyer
It's, you know, we we talk about sort of, um you know, you you've mentioned a couple times like the media not telling the truth and that kind of thing. So, you know, what what what are some of the things that you think about when you think about like quality?
::David Beckemeyer
how do you how How do you rate, you know, the quality and reliability of of information sources and how do you pick and choose and how how should people do that in this environment where there's so many choices?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um I think it should be based off of human interaction. Like, for example, um for me, my access is podcasting. So I'll bring on experts and hear their opinions.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And what I try to do is I try to hear both sides. So when I hear both sides, I'm able to kind of have like a general understanding of the situation.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay, like I'll give you a great example, especially when it comes to um ah women's mental health. Okay, I had a long time where I used to get really frustrated.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And then I had a really close friend of mine that explained to me, she says, you know, this is something that's where women should have the right and privacy to their own doctors. Because women's health is very different than men's health.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I was like, you know something, you have a point. And I'm like, I was able to hear her perspective. That's where I think you can get a lot of your... Your media and understanding of the world is people that you can find around you that are honest, that know what they're talking about. Also, people that you're like, you know what, maybe I want to get a second opinion.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Do that. Get a second opinion. Hear both sides. But to just turn on Fox News, em as ah MSNBC or CNN, like I don't think this is a great place to to get information.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, and even when, you know, like CNN, for instance, sometimes tries to do the whole, we'll show you both sides kind of thing. And even that's usually just any, and and I'm just picking on CNN, or you could probably pick any of the others.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, I know, I know. It's just, it's it's frustrating because like, it's not.
::David Beckemeyer
It's all a show.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
You know, it's just, they're not really trying to be sincere most of the time. i mean usually it's just so much show and so little, you know, thoughtful, ah you know, real diverse opinion. It's just kind of a show.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's more like scripted dialogue than anything else.
::David Beckemeyer
It's theater. Yeah. The show is not the right word.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Theater work.
::David Beckemeyer
It's like theater. Sort of like, you know, yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like off, off, off, off Broadway theater.
::David Beckemeyer
It's like a reality show almost.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, exactly.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Um.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. But yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Um.
::David Beckemeyer
and And so, yeah, that's interesting. So I do like that. Yeah. i mean, that's a good approach for sure. um i do like it. Yeah. That's what I hope, you know, it's hard to do that. but You don't know. None of us really want to hear things.
::David Beckemeyer
views that are different than ours, right? Because it can be make you really uncomfortable. ah it It can put you in a, you know, it can kind of get you riled up, put you in ah in a freaked out state.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It can. It does. 100%. And.
::David Beckemeyer
But one thing you mentioned is the people that you start doing it with people you trust, right? but that That's what is a big factor in it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, and the the thing about it is is that people that you trust don't have to have the same aligning opinions as you. Because the thing that you realize, like if you end a friendship because of politics, let me tell you something. if you're ah like For example, in my case, where I have ah have two best friends that um they live in Brooklyn and they are they're liberals.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But we're good friends. like we you know They're both very artsy. We kind of connect really well. Like, if there's a life and death situation, like, I'm not going to, like, not save their lives. Oh, because you're liberal.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
no i'm ah I'm not going to save... the fuck like nah that's what i'm trying to get at is too it's like if you constantly feed your mind with what that analogy of like oh there's this two side that is what your brain is going to constantly think but if you get yourself out of that analogy and you kind of surround yourself with people of different opinions like we said that people that you're actually able to trust like you have that connection with them
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you start to be able to have a more bird's eye view of things, which I personally think is like the most healthy way of looking at things, honestly. Because birds, God bless you. Just stay in the sky.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Don't shit on my car, please, but just stay in the sky.
::David Beckemeyer
yeah that's yeah that broader perspective is always is always good like like yeah because we can easily get caught up in our in our own little little worlds and lose you know forest for the trees kind of stuff right
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, 100%. And I think, honestly, that is kind of the direction of your podcast. Because i honestly, like I'm just going through this and like you have episode after episode, which kind of dives into those different avenues.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know And get a different perspective on different things. And i think that's so important. Because if you're too afraid about talking about things or opening up about different ideas, like...
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, it's funny. Well, yeah, I mean, it's funny because sometimes somebody listens to one episode and maybe, I mean, and generally I'm, I'm more meta. I'm not necessarily talking about specific issues, but sometimes things come up and a guest says a certain thing and it might come across as, you know, leaning left or leaning right or whatever, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Thank you.
::David Beckemeyer
Or it might might sound that way. And so I'll have, I'll have somebody that hasn't listened to the show, you know, overall, they've heard one episode. And they'll just attack me saying, you know, we all this, why are you spewing all this left wing nonsense?
::David Beckemeyer
Or why are you spewing all this right wing nonsense? It's like, well, you know, why don't you talk about this, this, this, and then well, okay, if you go back to episode this, we talked about that and we go back to episode this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Thank
::David Beckemeyer
So it's like, you know, they just assume because you had one episode with one person that came across as leaning one way or the other, that That means the whole show is that way. Like every episode must be that way. You can imagine a show that might have know some kind of diverse views on it, right? it's like It's really funny. I see that all the time, that people just assume I'm some kind of a left-wing crazy or a right-wing nut, right?
::David Beckemeyer
and And it's even like the most mildest stuff will set people off. to like Even if you dare say something like, you know, we should have a dialogue and we should have you know we should be open to other people's hearing other people's opinions.
::David Beckemeyer
Even that will set people off. That alone will set people off.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it's...
::David Beckemeyer
That's crazy.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's and Again, like, when I say the word libertarian, a lot of people are like, oh you're liberal.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh, you're a MAGA. Like, you're a far-right conservative. Bro, like there are apolitical people that call us a libertarian. Libertarian literally means is that I am a libertarian.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I stand by liberty, which literally is like the both of the things that we're kind of talking about. It's we're not just focusing on right and left wing ideology. We're focusing on ideology and things that actually affect us in the real world, like real stuff, real problems.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, i guess I kind of under.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, and you talked about, oh, sorry, go ahead.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
kind of understand. No, I kind of understand that why your podcast is called Outrage Overload. Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
like you know you kind of The: ::David Beckemeyer
And then you saw the pandemic and lockdowns and people fighting over that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
So you saw these waves of this going on, like people breaking lifelong friendships, good friends, family members. Everybody seems to have a story about, you know, Uncle John is not allowed to Thanksgiving anymore and this kind of stuff. Right.
::David Beckemeyer
mean, it seems like everybody has stories like that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Because he's too racist Yeah
::David Beckemeyer
And it's just like, well, that's that's kind of was a driver for the show. of Like, OK, what's going on here? I think that we can do better.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We really can And you know what It may be just your voice But I'm sure This will echo for a long time You know If there are people such as ourselves That are doing this Other people will follow too. you know And again, we are entering the beginning stages of podcasting.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We really are. don't want to be like one of those, like put us on a pedestal, but we are pioneers. And I think that comes from this idea of like we need to do something.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And this is the way that we do it. We talk about it, even if it's uncomfortable. Especially when it's uncomfortable.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Sigh.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. I'm a moderator. I'm also a trained moderator with a group called Crossing Party Lines where we we host these kind of conversations right there. And as a moderator, my my job really is just to kind of, you know, keep it oh i don't know um within the guardrails of like politeness and and that kind of thing. Right.
::David Beckemeyer
but But also the other piece of my moderating job is to make sure everybody gets a chance to give their views. Right. So I kind of have to run clocks a little bit so people don't ramble on too long. And everybody gets a chance to say something because that's the whole point of it is hearing individuals express their views. Like, you know, you don't have to agree with them.
::David Beckemeyer
You know, you not no one's saying you have to agree with them, but you can hear different real people different. And I've seen that as having, you know, real impact on people, right? Like you can hear doesn't always happen. Like at every meeting doesn't go that way. But almost every meeting has so a few moments where people really said, well, I've never heard it put that way kind of thing. Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, and you know what? i like I've kind of realized that sometimes people don't even realize to think that way. um Can I give you a quick example?
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I had yesterday um ah was talking with the with the couple I was telling you about from Brooklyn, and i was watching this. scene I think it was like one of those shows called Chosen for on YouTube where they have a panel of like on one side is like conservatives on the other side is like liberals.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And they like ask a question and then they kind of come together and then they both talk out their side back and forth. So the question that they had that came up is, do you think in same-sex couples there is a mother and father um like you know like like type within the relationship?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So the liberal was going on and explaining that, um... that this is a great example of you know fluidity within biological genders, that there is a gender spectrum because kids don't view parents based off gender. They based off of them of you know that a father can be a mother and you know ah ah but you know and vice versa.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So this conservative guy, which was more left-winging than he was conservative, he was actually married to a man and actually had a kid. And he said, says, to be fair, like my son sees us as father and father.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And he was kind of said that like, it doesn't necessarily matter whether there's a mother and father relationship. All that matters is that the kid has decent parents raising the kid with, you know, the right values, giving them a ah great headstart in life.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You're mixing things in to things where they don't belong. You know what I'm saying? And they both of them, like we were like thinking about it.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
She was like, yeah, you're totally right. And these are things that if we think about it, we kind of all agree with them, even though we think differently. We're like, yeah, we kind of we kind of agree on this.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, another thing about it, even if you don't arrive at an agreement, like I said before, you can at least understand how someone sees it the way they do. And also that learned likeno you know trying to you know they're not trying to destroy the destroy the world. They're just like trying to get along, just like all of us are, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, plain and simple. um You, if I'm not mistaken, have more than one show. You were telling me this earlier on the pre-call.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um You do a segment with your wife, right? so um
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Is it on Substack?
::David Beckemeyer
I'm starting to do it. We do it live on... so we had been We do it live on an online radio channel. And then I've also...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay.
::David Beckemeyer
we were I've sort of been playing around with other simultaneous, simultaneous streams of it. And right now I'm playing around with streaming it to Substack. Because I do have a you know reasonable following. And it seems like they're ah Substack is kind of where my peeps are, you know?
::David Beckemeyer
So it seems like... But ah it's a pretty... All of the streaming and stuff is pretty new on Substack. So it's really... But I'm going to give it I'm giving it a try. But it's also streamed on a radio channel. And then we put it out as a podcast, like on on the you know Spotify and Apple and all that stuff on the next day.
::David Beckemeyer
But if you want to listen live, you can do it on the live channel or on Substack. um Yeah. And so that's it. It's so funny because the two shows are the extreme opposite. Right. So the Outrage Overload show, which is kind of my main show.
::David Beckemeyer
That's like scripted and, or, you know, it's ah it's a formal show. It's it's um ah interviews with experts and, you know, we, it's, it's well edited and, and this kind of stuff. And, you know, and it's trying to be pretty serious.
::David Beckemeyer
um And then the other show is like the exact opposite. Like we do, we do minimal research. We kind of just sit down and turn the mics on. What we do is we, it's called out this week in outrage. And what we do is kind of just talk about what was in the news memes, what was in the news and what are kind of people getting riled up about. And, and, And then to some extent, the main goal, the main sort of um hook of the show or the yeah the game of the show is I try to see if I get my wife riled up about something.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know what, though? Honestly, like those are the relationships that are worth keeping.
::David Beckemeyer
Right.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, people people forget that and it's not just having a partner. It's about having somebody that you vibe with and connect with, you know, like somebody that like honestly can do a podcast with you, you know, not somebody to be like, you're doing that stupid thing again.
::David Beckemeyer
Right. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You don't spend any time with me.
::David Beckemeyer
Which is look but just pretty much the life of a podcaster is people doing saying that to you, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah Yeah. Literally every day. ah but i think that's an awesome that you've been able to do this.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um And by the way, um to anybody, when you check out the website, the cover for that podcast is actually really cool. Did you have somebody make that or you made that yourself?
::David Beckemeyer
I made that. Yeah, I made that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You did?
::David Beckemeyer
I just wanted it like a stylized version of us you know hanging out together.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
my god, that is amazing.
::David Beckemeyer
Because we also, you know, another little gimmick on the show is we usually start to show off with a cocktail or beer or something, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ah
::David Beckemeyer
So we break the rules you got to break the rules, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Gotta get a little... Gotta get a little... you gotta get a little loosey-goosey.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, so many people say don't, you know, drink alcohol to do a show. it's like, you know what? We're going to break that rule.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I mean, I smoke weed on this podcast, and I'm... I'm good. I'm good. i'm good ah
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
so you got
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. We have fun. Well, and that was my wife's, my wife gets producer a credit for that one. Cause that was like her whole deal. It's like, you talked about the the whole vibe thing. It was just like, look, we never get a chance to talk about stuff. Like we're always running around doing things.
::David Beckemeyer
So this will force us to sit down and talk for a while.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It kind of does. It kind of does. I think it's amazing. It's kind of amazing you've been able to like handle back and forth with a lot of these shows. you know It's hard enough to make one podcast. It's hard enough to do two. I've been there, done that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We're no longer friends. but i it's just ah i think it's incredible. like Honestly, like you need a lot of discipline to be able to do that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You need to be able to structure your time really, really well. and Man, oh man, i and i don't think a lot of people I don't think a lot of people can do it. I really don't. I think you you need like somebody like you to be able to do this, which is amazing.
::David Beckemeyer
Well, and I was probably like a lot of people that go and try this. is like I was like everybody else thinking, I listen to the radio. That doesn't sound that hard. I'll just do that. It should be easy. And then you actually find out how much is involved in it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. No. It's crazy.
::David Beckemeyer
you know Just the basics of like bike technique and you know trying to keep the thing together and all that kind of stuff, right? It's way more than you think it is.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Mm-hmm.
::David Beckemeyer
Like I'm really bad at reading scripts.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No one on a real.
::David Beckemeyer
So I do weird stuff. Like I stand up when I'm reading a script because I'll do like a little scripted segment at the beginning of my show to kind of intro the guest and kind of intro the topic. Right. And I'm not very good at that. Right. And people can kind of tell the difference of when I'm just being me chatting and when I'm reading stuff.
::David Beckemeyer
So like i' I've tried all kinds of things, like I've tried to put the picture of somebody that I'm talking to up and this kind of thing. But one thing that helps a little bit is I now do them standing up. So I'm just kind of an animated talker anyway. So.
::David Beckemeyer
I think that helps a little bit, but you try all these kind of weird things to kind of overcome some of your limitations.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's weird because sometimes for me, the podcasting kind of feeds into the real world. ah Like, for example, i go on dates with people and they're like, and they know I do podcasts and they're like, damn, I can kind of tell you of tell why you're a podcaster.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Because I got to do podcast interviews on dates.
::David Beckemeyer
Oh, really?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't even realize it anymore.
::David Beckemeyer
That's funny.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It is um David, a quick question. For all these wonderful people, ah where can they find you? ah Your social media? like I know you've got a lot of places people can find you.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um What are the best places?
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah, I mean, the best place to get it all is at outrageoverload.net. So it's.net. So outrageoverload. Sometimes people think I'm saying outrageoverlord, but it's not that. It's just outrageoverload.
::David Beckemeyer
It's kind of like an overloaded truck, right? We're overloaded with outrage. So outrageoverload.net. And then there's a contact page. It has all the stuff. But if you're you know if you just want to be on socials and and reach me, i can use you can usually find me pretty much everywhere at outrageoverload.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That is awesome. Well, listen, man, it has been an absolute pleasure to have you on and man, oh man, we need more freaking podcasters like you. Like I, I, I kid you not, you know, and I see why now it's, it's so important to be able to do this. Not only not it's not for people. It's honestly for yourself. Like you've able to do something you're really good at.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You're able to create an outlet for you and your wife. mean, come on. It's amazing.
::David Beckemeyer
Right? Yeah. bre thank Thank you so much.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um My pleasure.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah. and And by the way, speaking on the context stuff, I think, you know, ah Dave, that it's like we ah we love to hear from people like people like I'm there too shy to send me stuff. Don't be shy. Send me any dumb thing you want. I will 100 percent respond to you. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Send it over. Come on.
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Come on. Let's keep it going. ah
::David Beckemeyer
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
like thank you Thank you again so much for coming on. um For anybody out there, if you want to check out more of the podcast, you can find us everywhere and anywhere at Lost in the Groove Pod. And I am trying to put back our substack, so I will leave a link for you guys to find that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So with that, we'll catch you on the next one. All right. Peace out! ah
