#270 - Interview with author Bria Rose

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Dave: we're like crazy adults. It's like, it's so not true. Some of us are just

Bria Rose: I've always been known as a Disney freak, or the Disney girl, or, I mean, even like Disney adults are like, oh, you can't be a Disney fan because Disney was made for kids. Actually, no, it was not. Disney was not made for children. It was made for, actually, it was made for adults, especially the Disneyland park. it was made for adults. 'cause Walt Disney went to an amusement park and he is like, this is not fun. I wonder what place I can make for fun for adults to also enjoy so people are wrong. And I'll tell them all day, every day that they're wrong idiots.

Dave: No,

Bria Rose: Sorry.

Dave: no, it's true.

Bria Rose: feel very strongly about it.

y adult approach, obviously, [: 00:01:00

Like I think a little PG 13. You know what, maybe like R rated. Just, just, just a little

Bria Rose: You know, I, my books are definitely a, I have to of course, market it as, as 18 plus because of the. Content that is inside my books. But I will say that I have had 18 and lower get my books. I think the youngest that I am currently aware of, because I met her in person was, she was 13 and she came to my book

Dave: Wow.

Bria Rose: she called, it was actually really sweet.

tle brother, and then her at [: 00:02:00

I mean, I know what I was reading when I was younger, so, you know, I mean, it's not out of their realm. The possibility that, you know, someone that young would pick up my book. I mean, she had already read Haunting Adeline. So my book is. Compared to that book. That's crazy.

Dave: Oh yeah. I mean, okay, I think we touched on this before, but um, people tend to forget that, um, after Wal Disney died, Disney, um, went a little cuckoo bananas. Throughout the seventies and eighties. When I say cuckoo bananas, I mean they went full cuckoo bananas. They made movies like The Aristocrats, the Rescuers.

They [: 00:03:00

They didn't give a fuck. They're like, we're gonna make whatever the fuck we want to.

Bria Rose: Well, even with in the early days of Disney, like with, you know, the Mickey Mouse shorts, or what were they called? I don't remember exactly what they were called, but you know, um, Mickey, like the Fab Five

Dave: Uh oh. Silly Symphony was this silly.

Bria Rose: that's a lot of propaganda. That was a lot of like war, like political statements and you know, so Disney has not been a child zone.

now, a child zone, you know, [: 00:04:00

Those were just exceptional. The scores, I mean, people talk about the story being incredible, but what people really remember is like the Tarzan soundtrack. Like I, I watched

Dave: Phil Collins. Phil Collins killed it. He killed it.

Bria Rose: to go that hard, dude. Like, don't go the, like, we just want a, a good soundtrack.

Nah, they killed it. Incredible. Incredible.

Dave: And, [: 00:05:00

Like, I had that CD as a kid. Do you MI don't know if you had that CI had the, the Tarzan, Phil Collins cd.

Bria Rose: Oh.

Dave: And it's like some of us grew up with that. Like that's how we got introduced to Phil Collins was Tarn.

Bria Rose: Yep. So good.

Dave: It's amazing.

Bria Rose: Alan Minkin. Don't get me stored on, uh, Howard. Go Ashman Ash. I

Dave: Which film

Bria Rose: uh, I mean, Alan Menkin has been on multiple, uh, Disney films. I mean, he has done a lot of scores,

Dave: you talking about? The the composer?

Bria Rose: Yeah, [: 00:06:00

Like he did the, you know, the piano and just like went through his, library, oh not library. What is it called? Uh, his backlog of everything that he has done with the Disney company. I'm just like, I wanna cry. He did Beauty and the Beast. He did Howard Ashman. I think it's Ashman.

Dave: Is it Howard Ashman?

Bria Rose: It's Howard something.

Dave: Okay, hold on. Let's. Check Google. Okay, beauty and the Beast Composer, which by the way, beauty and the Beast also, like that soundtrack was just

Bria Rose: So

Dave: you, you, you start, um, Alan Erwin Minkin.

Bria Rose: Yeah. And then

Dave: Alan Mankin.

Bria Rose: And [: 00:07:00

Dave: Howard Ashman. Howard Ashman.

Bria Rose: knew it was Howard Ashman. So yeah, those are also two incredible people. I mean, but Phil Collins, I mean, again, Tara and Phil Collins. A hundred percent. I'm right there with you.

Dave: You know what, what's so amazing, especially like about Beauty and the Beast, right? And I, IFI found out about this like a few years ago when Angela Lansbury did Mrs. Potts.

Bria Rose: Oh

Dave: that you hear in the movie was One take,

Bria Rose: that incredible? She

Dave: one take.

Bria Rose: She's like,

Dave: She didn't wanna do it.

Bria Rose: So she's like, no, someone else is gonna do it better. They're gonna do it better than me. They're like, no, no, no, honey. Like just, just for shits and giggles. Come on, let just

Dave: You do it.

Bria Rose: And she's like, hold my drink. She is like, all right, I got one take in me.

And that's the take that we have. And it is just. Can you imagine if she's like, no. Like didn't take No, she killed it. Ugh.

Dave: [: 00:08:00

Bria Rose: So good.

Dave: But you know, what's, what's interesting is, is that we're dealing with a time where with a company that was very scrappy, you know, Disney was one of the first companies that heavily invested in VHS, you know, before a lot of other large, mainstream production houses did. And that really helped the, the brand in itself to be able to be seen by a much larger audience in the sense of we are even as.

ample, me, like I was born in: 1999

know? It shaped the way that [: 00:09:00

So far from that. It's like, it's like, you know, Herbie, you know, going off the cliff and just skydive just straight down, like just straight nose dive. It's like. Disney today doesn't look anything like Disney that I remember. It's like, it's like two different Disneys in my head. There's like Disney of the past and then there's modern Disney.

ed Frozen a hundred percent. [: 00:10:00

Hi Key Kat.

Dave: My sidekick

Bria Rose: Oh, um, you know, with Inside Out, truly, truly incredible. I mean, it got me, I'm all bing bong, I'm like sad sorrows. Um, I think that was just a movie called Red. Loved that, um,

Dave: the panda.

Bria Rose: go through. Yeah. The Panda one, what women go through monthly and all that, those feelings, like you know, so we have these incredible stories, but I feel like Disney is giving into what. Everybody that they think is looking and seeing, like, I just feel like they're following the trends. Canceling certain people, not canceling certain people, making certain political statements, you know, changing out certain, which I

Dave: Remakes

t gonna, yeah, remakes, like [: 00:11:00

Like literally the worst. worst. I mean, and even worst than Green Lantern. Are you kidding me? Like it's,

Dave: or, or the, the live action. First off, by the way. It's not a live action of the Lion King. Okay? There's no live lions. That was okay. It's like what was even the po, I'm sorry. Like this just boils my blood. What was even the point of making a remake and calling it a live action? It's just CGI animated lions.

It's like you could have just left Lion King alone. It was fine. It was fine. We got Tamon Tamon and Ooba

like visually was beautiful [: 00:12:00

I don't know the political term for them.

Dave: Dwarfism. Yeah.

Bria Rose: yeah. So I believe the role should have stayed with that. But Hot Take, I did like what they looked, what they ended up looking at, like, because they

Dave: I know we talked about,

Bria Rose: like the cartoon, exactly like the cartoon. Little weird, but again. I do wish they would've given the role to, um, community of people, because that literally is Snow White in the Seven Dwarves.

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Dave: we, we,

Bria Rose: know what I

Dave: we touched this with also with Ariel. It's like. We're not, again, nobody's trying to erase history or culture in any shape or form, but

Bria Rose: you know,

Dave: the fact is, fact, these come from the Grim brothers among other European writers that wrote these stories. European. European,

Bria Rose: not

Dave: okay. No, like Mulan was a great example and they made a lot of action.

At least they kept to the story that came from China, um, more, a little bit more accurately than the Mulan that we got in the nineties, which again is totally fine. I mean, it's a Chinese folklore story that's been told for hundreds and hundreds of years. I thought that was amazing. It really showcased Chinese tradition of that region.

But again, that's China. It's not Europe, it's China.

Bria Rose: yeah,

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Bria Rose: yeah. I just, I just, it just saddens me and not like switching out like, uh, different like, people of color for why white, you know, like, not just that, in general, just changing these stories a little bit. You know? Uh, I don't like when people say, oh, Disney is so. Just very white when it's not. We have Moana, we have Mulan, we have, um, brave who is Irish.

We have Bell, who is French. We have Cinderella, I believe, who is also French. We have Pinocchio, who is Italian.

Dave: Italian

Bria Rose: you know, so, we have Frozen, so like, not just the princesses, but

Dave: Scandinavian

Bria Rose: with Africa, you know, frozen, like

Dave: right.

Bria Rose: We have, um, White, which is German and, and German stories.

ir is pretty dark, you know, [: 00:15:00

Dave: no, no, no, no. I think, I think what you're, I think what you're touching on, and I'm sorry to cut you off, is very crucial when you're a writer in your case and you are developing your own stories off of things that you love. Because again, we're talking about not just being an artist, but finding a passion.

Finding something that you creatively gives you fulfillment in life, and you wanna be able to showcase the story in your own voice. It's, again, it's not erasing anybody's culture. It's not creating a new narrative or making a new direction. It's your, take your version of what the story was for who knows how many years.

There are plenty. There are [: 00:16:00

I mean, to be honest, like you're kind of being racist towards Germans. You know, like I, that's bizarre thing to even say, but it's like, yeah, you're, you're being racist towards, you know, people that have had a history for thousands of years.

r, right? So I am not in the [: 00:17:00

Dave: It's okay.

Bria Rose: I am a straight female, but I do wanna bring diversity into my books. I do wanna bring other types of people of color into my books. Do I know their experiences? No. But it's on me to do the research behind, you know, like whether that's interviewing people, whether that's, you know, for me, I feel like my travels have really helped me to be in the environment where I can accurately explain certain locations appropriately. And so I want to tell all these different types of stories, but it is on the writer who does not have those personal experiences to do the research. You know, I don't know what it is to be a domestic violence victim or survivor, not victim. We don't wanna victimize these people. But

Dave: Yeah.

my duty to most accurately, [: 00:18:00

Dave: Ian culture. Yeah.

Bria Rose: Very culture. Thank you. Whereas Little Mermaid is mermaids and you can kind is more fantasy based with that.

Dave: Gotta play around with it.

Bria Rose: want with that.

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: play more around with that, of course. Do what you need to do with that story. But Snow White, I'm like, where was the more German like feeling like beauty and the beast, the live action. The art, like the art,

Dave: Felt French.

Bria Rose: uh, the gowns. It was so

Dave: Felt French. Yeah.

Bria Rose: so [: 00:19:00

Dave: You know, it's interesting that you bring this up because I had an argument with a very close friend of mine where she was in a situation where she met somebody that was Native American and she went on to this whole tangent about how Native Americans never used shellfish. They never ate shellfish.

They never touched shellfish. And I, I looked at her and I'm like, honey, what the hell are you talking about? And she says, well, she told me and, and she's Native American. And I'm like. There's the Shimo heavy tribe that's in California that heavily used, heavily used shellfish and fish throughout their cultures.

ca, all the way to Argentina [: 00:20:00

You can't say that people that are from the Sac and Fox Nation are the same as the Palani Nation. They're two completely different tribes, different languages, different cultures. They hunted differently. They,

Bria Rose: Mm-hmm.

Dave: up themselves different. Like it's just ridiculous when people get this into their minds and their heads of like, well, I know a culture.

able to immerse yourself if, [: 00:21:00

And I don't feel, it's like being arrogant. I just feel like, do you really wanna be the person that gets proven wrong when you clearly are. That was bizarre by the way, when she told me that, I was just like, what? So bizarre. I dunno what she was smoking. I'm like,

Bria Rose: something,

Dave: they all wore suede and hunted buffalo.

Okay. Okay. Sure.

Bria Rose: but. Yeah,

Dave: Crazy.

Bria Rose: day like tribes. Like I'm, I'm Cherokee, but I haven't really lived like in the culture, but I've gone to like powwows and you know, I've

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: recently, I've really wanted to immerse myself in what it means to kind of back to my roots, you know, kind of seeing like what part of Mexico are my, you know, my people from and things like that.

ke, you know, my people are, [: 00:22:00

So they used a round. But now we are everywhere. You know, everyone is everywhere. Everyone's traveling. So that logic today, I'm like, I love shellfish, I love seafood, I love, you know, all types of Mexican, I love also Italian. You know, like, I just feel like it's, I mean, of course talking about history wise, you know,

Dave: Yeah, that's.

Bria Rose: I'm sure did not eat.

She, 'cause they probably were in the middle of the United States, you know, so,

Dave: and there were parts of Canada where

Bria Rose: Yes.

Dave: You didn't really have shrimp coming out of ice. Ice glaciers. I haven't seen that before.

Bria Rose: so very definitely, very strange. That's funny.

What you touched on also is [: 00:23:00

They're one of those tribes that they built their own medical industry, they've built their own government. They built support programs across the United States. Like Navajo Nation also, it, it's, it's not just about survival. They also want newer generations to kind of be a part of the jewelry making to be a part of their language and stuff like that.

Like, I'll show you something too. I got this in California. Like

Bria Rose: Oh,

Dave: you,

Bria Rose: that.

Dave: you know where they put the, they burn the horse here on and then they do the,

Bria Rose: Yeah.

Dave: this stuff.

ria Rose: A horse hair. Yes, [: 00:24:00

Dave: I love this. It's my little buffalo.

Bria Rose: Aw.

Dave: But that's something I appreciate tremendously with writers and authors like you. It's not about rewriting history, it's about telling history from your own voice.

Bria Rose: Yeah.

Dave: That's the difference right.

Bria Rose: Mm-hmm. While also staying true to these stories themselves. You know, I can't, I mean, during medieval times in my fantasy world, I could say, oh, and queens always allowed their children to marry whoever they wanted. No, that wasn't reality. Maybe sometimes in certain situations, sure, I could have that, but overall, you are a political pawn to be used to further a kingdoms whatever, because they need power of this or that they're wars.

There's this, you know, so. [: 00:25:00

Dave: Pinocchio.

Bria Rose: but your own rules. Yeah. Well, technically Pinocchios Italy, and it actually is a certain region of Italy. Um,

Dave: No, but the story, the story of Pinocchio, like

Bria Rose: up.

Dave: right.

Bria Rose: A doll comes to life 'cause of a fairy. Yes, a hundred percent. So, you know, actually that's a great segue because so, um, her Dark Promise is my first book, but I am currently working on two books. One with a company called One More Chapter, who is a part of Harper Collins. I cannot talk about the contents of that book yet.

t I am publishing, you know, [: 00:26:00

Dave: By the way, even the, even the Disney, it's interesting because the Disney adaption of Pinocchio, which if people don't realize this movie came out in the forties, that's how old this movie is. Like that's how long ago. It's very old. And it had, people don't realize, it's like when they did the artwork for that film, it was very Italian, you know, the, the landscapes, the, the tones that they used, the characters, you know, people tend to forget what was the whole idea of the foxes.

ou know, that's in the story [: 00:27:00

No, they, they spent years in production. I think they also had some of their teams even going out Italy, Italy to learn more about the story.

Bria Rose: that they do that. Yeah.

Dave: Yeah. And I was just like, wow.

y, you know, oh, what did it [: 00:28:00

What did the pavement feel under, not pavement, but like the cobblestone feel underneath my feet. What did it, what did the buildings look like? What did, what were the people like? Did they act a certain way? You know, so there's, I mean, for example, a great example is. Unless you go there, you probably won't know that there's a lot of refugees coming from other countries into Naples specifically.

So there's some really bad parts of Naples specifically where I had my phone out taking pictures and they're like, don't do that. Not here. 'cause they'll just grab your phone and run. I mean, of course that's everywhere. But have been around Europe, I traveled around Europe for a month with my mom and a couple other people.

And that was the only place where someone actually came up to me saying, not do that here. this is not, this is not safe. Right. Where this location that we're you're currently at. So, you know, I just

Dave: Yeah.

people to these locations is [: 00:29:00

Dave: Yeah, it is, and I, it's weird because I have a friend of mine that lives out in Manchester and I had a very interesting experience when I went out to the uk, whereas in London it's very dangerous. You know, you constantly have to look around your shoulders. Like you, me personally, I did not feel comfortable at all.

w somebody that's from there.[: 00:30:00

You know, we, we. You can know so much research, but if it's very hard to really be able to immerse yourself, some people can do this. I'm not saying that there are people that could just pick up a book and watch a movie, and they're like, all right, I understand this culture. Like I'm good to go. But I think being, you are kind of similar in this way, like the best way to kind of understand in the environment, you kind of have to be there.

You gotta be, you gotta be able to see how the people react and how they survive and what their environment's like. Like you said, like feeling the cobblestone. 'cause a lot of these places, they have buildings that have been there for hundreds of years, hundreds. Like you walk down the street and like, oh, that's an 800 year old church.

incredible, what's actually [: 00:31:00

Dave: You want doggy style or you want,

Bria Rose: No

Dave: you want missionary,

Bria Rose: exactly. True. No, truly. And so when sailors would come in, 'cause it's right by, you know, um, the

Dave: but the coast.

Bria Rose: when Yeah, the coast. Thank you. So when sailors would come in, they actually had phalluses on the ground that would point towards the prostitutes. Like the, the house, I don't wanna say the whore house, but Yeah.

an actual profession, it was [: 00:32:00

Dave: Oh yeah. They, they were not,

Bria Rose: but.

Dave: they were not like, if people know anything about Roman culture, these were not women that were just dirty. You know, I hate to use the term like dirty whores on the street. No, the, these were women that were considered the utmost of, like, they got the cleanest water supplies.

wed doctrine and control and [: 00:33:00

It's like. You know, people have different faiths and beliefs. People have different ways of how they live their lives, and this idea of like, I'm sorry, I get so sick and tired of this crap. Protect our children. Whatcha are protecting your kids from, tell me what exactly are you protecting your kid? You have two parents that bring a child into the world.

Right? World. You know, you said you had a 13-year-old that came over to your book, sunny. Obviously those parents had a conversation with their kid. They knew that their kid was smart enough and able to be able to read something like that. They made a conscientious decision between them. That's their child.

know seriously. Like whatcha [: 00:34:00

Bria Rose: It's, it's confusing because I agree with what you're saying and I feel like we're creating a culture where we're, I don't wanna say that. Okay. are men and women like, okay, I'm trying to say this in the

Dave: Retake.

Bria Rose: way possible.

Dave: Take two. There you go.

Bria Rose: Um, as I am a single female, a single straight female looking for a single man. Now, I do not mind, you know, I'm part of the generation. I'm not gonna say I'm hyper independent. I want someone to take care of me. Please load, find me a man to, you know,

Dave: Same.

Bria Rose: I,

Dave: I'd love a man that would spoil me. Please. Yes, yes, please, please.

Bria Rose: Amal. Please, please load. Help me or all the Lords, I don't care who's, whoever's listening,

Dave: Bring th

Bria Rose: me.

from the heavens above, come [: 00:35:00

Bria Rose: write to my doorstep so I don't, don't have to go anywhere. I can keep reading, writing.

Dave: Mm-hmm.

Bria Rose: but no, I just feel like as someone who has not even high standards, but the standards for are so low, and it's not just men. There's, you know, shitty women too. They're shitty people. And I, I will not settle. I told myself, you know, I'm actually turning 32 in a few weeks and, you know, I am willing to wait for the right person to come around. And so, kind of going back, I know I'm getting to a point, I swear, but going back to what you were saying about how,

Dave: I love this. Yeah. Keep going.

Bria Rose: protecting our people from?

e so many kids who are like, [: 00:36:00

I'm like, what are we helping these kids do? They're, they're not, I mean, I, there's a class where they made me cry. so the teacher was like, you need to do letter. Like write letters to this to her. And I'm like, okay, I want them cam them to me 'cause I wanna read them. They were, it was illiterate, it was, I couldn't read it.

They did their eyes not capitalized, run on sentences, no punctuation. Uh, instead of your YOUA post re it was, you are like, just the letters you are, you know, I'm just like, what are we? And it just kind of gave me an insight to where, what are we doing? And then you try to get 'em in trouble. God forbid one girl showed up wearing, you know, those triangle?

're looking at me. You know, [: 00:37:00

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Bria Rose: Yeah,

Dave: And, you know, I try to be, you know, kind of a gay guy that's like, you know, I, I don't, I don't get offended very easily, you know, I'm very chill, very laid back.

The stuff that comes out of these guys' mouth, I'm just like, I don't even say that to other gay men. Okay. I don't even say that. All right. Like, it's just, it just blows my mind away. And then on top of that, you know, we're in an industry, especially for me, where I'm working towards for BMW, you know, it's a high-end luxury brand.

position. And like one of my [: 00:38:00

Whatcha doing? You need to know how to write. You're gonna have to know how to write repair orders.

Bria Rose: at all.

Dave: No, at all. And it's like, I come from a generation where we both come from this gen. We learned how to do cursive in school. We learned how to do grammar in school.

Bria Rose: The typing,

Dave: Yeah. We had to learn how to type.

Yeah.

Bria Rose: I still

Dave: What happened?

but the political activists, [: 00:39:00

I mean, it just made me really sad. I mean, I, I put it down, but the way that they're being parented, you know, it's like, well, you can't, oh, my kid wore this. Well, I told them they could, you know, like, oh, this isn't, whatever, it's, it's. I don't wanna just blame the parents because it's outside influences, you know, it's literally a hodgepodge.

Different things that make an individual who they are. And you

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: from the worst background, but end up being the best, not even the best kid. 'cause I don't wanna say there's best and the worst, but respectable, upstanding CI citizens that are respectful and communicative and can articulate what it is that they exactly they need to say.

And have the emotional intelligence to where if they get angry, they're not going to lash out. And you're afraid that they might kill you because that's, that's the school right now. I mean, make a kid mad, they could bring a knife, they could stab you with a pencil,

Dave: Violence.

Bria Rose: face. Violence is huge. And so

Dave: And they,

know how to self-regulate at [: 00:40:00

Dave: they,

Bria Rose: whatsoever.

Dave: they also, like, I'm, I'm sorry to be one of those people. It's weird when you try to sit down with them and have logical conversations. They don't even know what they're angry about. They don't even, you know, you're like, do you even know what these terms mean? You know, for example, one of my classmates, I'm sorry, I'm using this as real life example.

Bria Rose: Yeah.

Dave: One of my classmates, you know, he's Haitian. And then I have another classmate of mine that he's also Haitian and he is working for BMW. He's been working for them for the past year. He's in school to be able to continue his education so he can be able to do more training. And he straight up just said to him, he's like, well, you don't know what black privilege is.

rking so he can continue his [: 00:41:00

Bria Rose: Mm-hmm.

Dave: don't even know what you're saying.

You don't even know the terms and terminology the same. We're talking earlier about the difference of like, well this is, this is white privilege. You know, we have to have more diverse. Do you know what these terms mean? Do people understand what black privilege and white privilege and supremacy, do people really know what these terms mean?

Me personally, I don't think they know what these mean. I don't think they understand the, the, the, the actual root of what these terms come from.

Bria Rose: I think that's a really good point because even, I don't really know, I haven't really done the research behind certain things because I, I don't see, I try to say all the political scene, but I do try to make my page as non-political as possible. You know, I haven't, um.

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: I mean, cancel culture nowadays is just crazy.

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or what they have it seem to [: 00:43:00

Like for example, the like feminists, like, we don't hate men, we just want a voice. The

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: like movement or hyper independent women like, oh, you guys are all stuck up and you're all this because what? They learned it about it like in a movie or they saw one clip on social media of something like, oh, well that's hyper.

You know, I don't want that kind of a woman, know? I'm

Dave: Right. Yeah. Or for example, or for example, this thing where, again, this is my own personal experience. I'm, I'm the, the same way with you, I, I like to go off of my own knowledge and expertise and things that I learn where you deal with a lot of straight men, that they get very pissed off at gay men because.

late. There's a way of being [: 00:44:00

And it's same thing like you said with feminism, like feminism and its root is being able to be proud in your own, your own gender. You know, being able to be proud in who you are as a person, regardless of what the world wants to throw at you, what you're able to accomplish, what you're able to do, and be able to be proud of that.

And that's what it really boils down to. It's just being proud of who you are and who you wanna be in the end of the day. Right.

Bria Rose: exactly. I feel the same exact way. It's um, people just want something. To complain and fight about when at the end of the

Dave: Right.

Bria Rose: be coming together and trying to understand people. 'cause kind of going back to your thing, I mean, I had a funny thing happen to me years ago when I was still working at Disney.

We all, [: 00:45:00

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: we can be who we are and you're not gonna do anything to us.

I mean, you could still attack us. Sure. I mean,

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: at any moment,

Dave: Right.

Bria Rose: you're not gonna hit on me. I, I don't have to have my guard up of like, okay, I, you know, we can just have a good time and maybe we can even talk about boys together

Dave: Oh my God. I love [: 00:46:00

Bria Rose: done where

Dave: Yes. Girls night.

Bria Rose: girls night musicals, you know, we just relate more.

I feel like you got, it's just. The vibe is different, but, so I was hanging over this guy 'cause I thought he was gay. And my friend was like, Hey, do you and him have like a thing going on? Like, are you guys like a thing? I'm like, whatcha talking about he is gay? They're like, no he is not. And I'm like, what do you mean?

They're like, he's not gay. I'm like, oh shit. That was my bad. I thought he was For me at Disney, you're gay until proven straight. I believe that.

Dave: Yeah. I mean, if people have not noticed some of these executives or people that are working for Disney, like just the fabulous outfits, like, I'm sorry, like there's some straight guys that can pull that off, but it's like.

Bria Rose: So good.

Dave: We are, we are like the queens when it comes to outfits. Come on,

Bria Rose: Yes,

Dave: come on.

Bria Rose: a hundred percent. So

Dave: I mean,

Bria Rose: there

gay fashion designer, like, [: 00:47:00

Bria Rose: say, oh when a fashion designer loves women and they give us pockets, like, yes,

Dave: Finally they listened. I know. And not the, the, the, the narrow P honey. The narrow pockets in the jeans drives me cr like, how are you supposed to fit your phone? How you supposed to fit your phone? You like half your phone is sticking out.

Oh my God.

Bria Rose: with you. It's so

Dave: Oh my god. I mean even like touching on Disney, like even Bell has pockets in her like dress, right?

Bria Rose: Give

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: like what are

Dave: Yeah.

Bria Rose: Of course, women want pockets, like, well, we have purses. We don't wanna carry purses, we wanna use our pockets.

far does, how far does this [: 00:48:00

So being the fact, like I've always had like Stitch Lounge fly bags, and I've just noticed it's like, it literally is the best conversation starter. 'cause like, I literally have somebody, I'm like, oh my God, your bag is so cute. And I'm like, thank you. And then I pull out my wallet and it's also like a stitch like wallet and they're just like, oh my God, that's even cuter.

And I'm just like, and it's just, I could just start a conversation over there. So for me being like, not so much an extrovert, you know, more of an introvert, it's like my little, my. It's my way of being able to start conversations back.

Bria Rose: When you got something, like, do try to make it a point to where if I see someone on the street even. Boys, boys love compliments. And I don't think people really get that. Like girls love

Dave: I [: 00:49:00

Bria Rose: do too. You know? Not all boys. But, um, I try to say, oh, I like this. I like your hair.

I you smell really nice. Oh my God, your outfit's so cute. And people light up, you know, when they, you hear these compliments, you know, it's, it could literally be the difference between maybe someone being sad to where they wanna like, take their own life to like, oh, someone sees me. You know? There are that happen like that.

You know, someone is just so sad. And then you say, Hey, I'm so happy you're here today. Life can's,

Dave: Yeah,

Bria Rose: changing.

over and just give him a big [: 00:50:00

You know, sometimes I just like put my hands around his shoulders just like, you know, to be there for him. And like, there's that one, there's always that one person that's just like, you know, he's gay and I'm, and he's like, yeah. And like, therefore, like, okay.

Bria Rose: Yeah.

Dave: know, and just like, just, just like, I'm not trying to get in this man's pants.

I genuinely like the guy, like I have said, like, if he was gay, maybe I would, I would go out with him. But like, I respect him. I respect him genuinely. And like I know that feeling too. Like there are guys we are. They just don't have any self-esteem. And sometimes women, it's hard for them to just go up to a man and start telling them this stuff.

would ever do that for him? [: 00:51:00

Bria Rose: It's important.

Dave: It's, it's just being able to be there for other people, you know, I think tying this back to, even with ancient culture, what we forget as individuals, it's not everything is about, you know, not everything is about sex. Sometimes it's just people being able to care for one another regardless of who we choose to have in bed with, you know, or who, what we choose to live our lives.

You know, some people choose that they like goth and they like white and black makeup. Okay. You know, some people like cyberpunk. I love those people. They always have those like funky outfits like, oh my God, did you make that necklace like in two hours? Yeah. You know,

Bria Rose: People love dressing up as like old timey, like in those old

Dave: stuff.

there's all these different [: 00:52:00

Dave: Do.

Bria Rose: I don't know, serotonin or endorphins, it's certain things flowing through you, but you need three hugs that last, like, I think like seven to 10 seconds, I believe is what it is.

I'm not sure exactly the stats, but, people need literally, biologically, like, we need connection in life. And so when you are disconnected, that's when you get depressed and you're, you know, isolated from people and that's, it's just not good at all.

and I see one thing I really [: 00:53:00

People grew up differently than we do. You know, just because I was raised a certain way doesn't mean somebody else was raised the same way either. And you know, for me to sit there and say, well, you don't know. You don't know what suffering is. You know, you don't know what hardship is, you can't, because everybody has their own, I would say, like level to them of what their hardship is or what they've been through.

? And I think that sometimes [: 00:54:00

You shouldn't be judged for it. I think it should be something that should be celebrated, you know?

Bria Rose: Oh, a hundred percent. Like back in the day, early anime, um, people like, oh, those are such nerds geeks. And, you know, there are some weirdos in every in

Dave: Group.

Bria Rose: there's weirdos with, you know, sports things when people take a little too far with like your, there's like the, um, theater geeks, you know, like, I just feel like, of course not really geeks, but you know, like. People who take things a little too far. I don't really

Dave: Yeah.

mselves you know, so there's [: 00:55:00

I'm like, no, sometimes. Why can't we just like love what we love?

Dave: Yeah, sometimes

Bria Rose: what we what, how we want to enjoy something. Like, I love

Dave: right.

Bria Rose: you know, and I'm not, I mean, that's really a great, I guess example, but I love to s you know, because I love anime. I have a whole playlist of my anime music, my K-pop music.

I call my Asian vibes playlist.

Dave: I love that. I love that.

t is Korean, it's, you know, [: 00:56:00

Dave: No, I feel, I, I, I feel like for me, I love, like, I think it's Studio Ghibli or Ghibli. I,

Bria Rose: oh

Dave: I, I call it Gib and for me it's my neighbor to like, it's my neighbor. Totoro is like one of my favorite ones that they've ever made. And you know, I've watched it mostly growing up and dubbed obviously, 'cause I live in North America and we speak English here

Bria Rose: Yeah.

Dave: watched it in Japanese.

rs that are able to showcase [: 00:57:00

Oh, well this is, this is cultural appropriation. Or you know, you're not watching it in the trues. It's like, it's enough already. It's like, let people be people, let people enjoy what they love to enjoy. It's like the whole people don't understand this. The whole idea of anime and manga is the way you feel, the, the connection you feel to the, the craziest ones that are about food porn all the way down to the va.

Vampire slayers, food wars.

Bria Rose: don't get me started on ghost stories. My God, it

Dave: Oh my god.

Bria Rose: in today's society. And

Dave: No,

Bria Rose: is

Dave: no, no, no, no.

Bria Rose: ever dubbed. gotta watch it. Dubbed

Dave: Oh my god. [: 00:58:00

Bria Rose: Wild.

Dave: people do not understand anime and manga in the nineties was bizarre. Like there was blood sucking orgy rituals in some of these novels. I've seen it. You open up the book and you're like, holy shit.

Bria Rose: Mm-hmm.

Dave: And it's just, sorry. I mean this is, this is already rated R but like there's just pussy and dicks in every fucking page.

You're just like, oh my God. And it's in a library. It's in a library. It's like at a local library down your street. You're like, no way. This is real.

Bria Rose: I'm

Dave: But

Bria Rose: eye. Oof.

Dave: Oh my God. We gotta bring that back. We gotta bring that. That was one thing I loved about Alice in Borderland.

Bria Rose: still here.

Dave: is,

Bria Rose: God. I was on borderland. So good.

Dave: I can't wait for season three.

thing, but like, once we got [: 00:59:00

Bria Rose: Yeah.

Dave: Borderland every day, any day, because it's so surreal, it feels like, okay, good. It's like the good guys against the bad guys. It's like, okay, the good guys actually die.

Like they die brutally.

Bria Rose: Oh God.

Dave: It's like, okay.

Bria Rose: I did not see that coming at all.

Dave: It was horrible. It was horrendous. Like each episode gets worse. Worse with the graphic like gore. It just gets worse. Just every episode just gets worse. This is worse.

Bria Rose: It cha it truly changed my life. I mean, that is one that I talked about for at least a year after.

Dave: Can we just get the elephant outta the room? You could ne Okay. Lemme, you could never make that in the United States.

Bria Rose: No,

Dave: I said it.

ot gonna talk about anything [: 01:00:00

So that's, I feel what I know most about. And it how you were, you kind of touched on, you know, anime is all about emotion. me one anime that not a part of. Like, you're not gonna cry. There's not some kind of found family, there's not some kind of connection with other people. You know, it's, there's, so each one, the action ones, don't get me started.

Attack on Titan, don't get me started. And

Dave: Oh my God.

Bria Rose: for made for kids. No, they're not. Again, have

Dave: they're not.

Bria Rose: Titan?

Dave: No, they're not made for kids.

It's, it blows my mind that [: 01:01:00

Dave: we

Bria Rose: I

Dave: we're good at,

Bria Rose: We're,

en known for for a very long [: 01:02:00

And in those cultures over time and how they've developed, they've developed differently. You know, Americans do like anime and manga from these other places. The reason why Americans are not very good at making it, it's just, it's not our thing. It's not, when it comes to the entertainment industry.

Americans are just not known for anime and manga. That's, that's their industry. We're known for other things. Like I said, we're really good at psychological thrillers. I mean. We got the shining, we've got misery. Do you want me to keep going?

Bria Rose: Oh

Dave: pet cemetery. There's

Bria Rose: God, so good. Stephen King

Dave: Stephen King is like,

Bria Rose: It terrifying.

ave: is another one. We have [: 01:03:00

It's not, you're trying to rewrite European history, but you're putting like, you know, when you're kind of putting, you know, your own spin on it, you know, it's like,

Bria Rose: Exactly.

Dave: here in America, I'm living the American dream. I'm having a good time over here. You know what, like put my own, somebody named Walt Disney did it a while ago.

Let me, let me give it a try. Let get a little shot.

Bria Rose: I, I think that's, but that's what Walt Disney did. He got these stories from fairytales. It didn't just pop up in someone's head, be like, oh, this is an original story. No, it's not. They put their own spin to it. Hi Kat.

Dave: [: 01:04:00

Bria Rose: you know, they, they put, so when people say, um, there's a huge thing of like, authors not wanting to read books or watch things like in their genre. So for example, for Beat and The Beast. So like, oh, I don't, I don't read Fairy Tale Retellings, especially Beauty and the Beast once, because I don't want to like copy or take from them. I'm like, every single thing that we go on in our lives is inspiration for books. So I think it's kind of ridiculous.

Like when they say, oh, I don't wanna read a Beauty of the Beach Tale. I'm like, you, I mean, it has all the tropes. I mean, enemies of Lovers is probably the biggest trope out there besides like, like Found

Dave: It's a beautiful story. It has beautiful morals too,

Bria Rose: And like everyone says, who did that to you?

s a a and then the male love [: 01:05:00

Dave: right?

uld love to. So my character [: 01:06:00

For those who have watched it, you'll get it. Um, he's just unhinged. I'm like, I wanna bring that energy to Bellamy. How can I do that with fitting into my story? And how does he fit with this? 'cause I, in general, it's all about feeling like, oh, be, uh, that guy is unhinged. He has a SPD, he doesn't feel the same.

o, how far we wanna push the [: 01:07:00

Like that means do I want my book to be a young or new adult erotica? Do I want it to be taboo? know, like it's how far you're willing to push yourself, yourself, and the voice that you wanna tell the world and the story you want to tell. So there is no original thought, but what is original is your take on life experiences, the stories you read, the movies you watch, the people in your life. That, you know, maybe you know somebody who went through domestic violence and you would like, you got inspired to write, or me being bullied, oh, I would like to write a bully story where I'm giving the person, the, the survivor of being bullied a voice and they can take back their, you know, who they are as a person.

gain, no original story, but [: 01:08:00

Dave: Yeah, it does. You know, I have to say like. It's really incredible to be able to talk with authors such as yourself, because it's not just a showcase of writing, but it's also a showcase and dedication of being unique and being your own, you know, regardless of what people think and what people have to say.

You know, the fact that you can show up to book signings and there's people there that wanna be a part of your story, you know, they, they wanna see your work continue. They want to hear more of the stories you have to, and I think that really is what showcases more than anything else. It's not about, you know, what is clickbait, you know, or what the algorithm wants.

It really boils down to how can you showcase yourself and be the most genuine version that you possibly can.

Bria Rose: A hundred percent.

Dave: [: 01:09:00

Um, but, uh, walk me through that. How could people, uh, find your books if they want, for example, like come out, um, to any of your, like your book signings, you know, following you on social media or anything like that. Walk me through it.

Bria Rose: so I made it. I made it really easy. I brand myself. I, in my opinion, incredibly because everything is under Author Bria Rose, now A-U-T-H-O-R-B-R-I-A-R-O-S-E. I only spell it out because I think when people see my handle, they think, oh, Bria Rose. I'm like, no, no, no. Bria Bria

r is it Bria? Yeah. We need, [: 01:10:00

Bria Rose: that's okay. So Author Bria Rose is everything. That's author bri.com. That's tiktok.com dash, you know, slash author brio Instagram at author Bria Rose. So. Um, that's how you can find me. You can buy my books on Amazon, Barnes Noble. Uh, most recently I found out it's on walmart.com, so there's a few different places.

The audiobook, of course, just head of my website. My website probably is the best way to find out about updates on what's going on. Social media, TikTok, Instagram, I post about book signings. It's actually a good idea probably to post where my upcoming, you know, places I'll be on my website as well. But definitely take a look at those three. you have any questions, I am always available through dms and my email.

ou know, and just our gripe, [: 01:11:00

Bria Rose: Yeah. Or, or into the week, depending on how you look at it.

Dave: into the week. Yes. Sorry, I gotta correct my grammar. Oh my goodness. I'm showing my age.

Bria Rose: no. I said

Dave: Oh,

Bria Rose: Sorry. I said end of the week. End of the

Dave: oh. End of the week. Oh,

Bria Rose: Yeah. Not your grammar. Don't worry. I'm not

Dave: I gotta listen a little better. I gotta listen a little better over here. But, but again, though, I seriously thank you for coming on and sharing your story and honestly to anybody that's out there, if you love Disney as much as me and Bria does, be sure to check out her work. I'm, I'm sure you gonna get a nice different, different approach.

A lot more fun than what we remember. Probably a lot more fun than we remember these stories. Yeah.

Bria Rose: long as you like spice, you'll like me.

Dave: A I love that. [: 01:12:00

So with that motherfuckers, we will catch you on the next one. Alright, peace.