Episode 82

American Groove - #82 Rocky Horror Revelations Show

We embark on a nostalgic and journey to do the tiem warp with "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". Exploring why this cult classic continues to captivate audiences across the globe. Karissa and I discussed our first encounters with the film. Pointing out it's unique charm that demands group viewings rather than solo experiences. We laughed about the absurdity of the storyline. And how the film's community viewings turn into vibrant, interactive events.

Of course we veer into a broader discussion. About the role of movies in cultural expression, and societal norms during the 1970s. We delved into how films like "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". Served as a subtle rebellion against societal constraints. Blending horror, comedy, and risqué elements to challenge, and entertain. Our chat is filled with personal stories, reflections on societal changes as well. And the celebration of the film's enduring impact on pop culture. Join us for this lively exploration of cinema's wild side, and the lasting appeal of a film that broke all the rules.

The host of American groove is Karissa Andrews. A licensed aesthetician, makeup artist and lover of pugs. The best part is that you can check out her work on Instagram: 

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Karissa's name for the week is "hi"

Transcript

00:01.63

lostinthegroove

There is something about Rocky Horror Picture Show that just strikes a chord. I don't know what it is.

00:11.41

hi

I know.

00:11.67

lostinthegroove

It came out so long ago. The story makes absolutely no sense. And if you watch it by yourself, you are fucking weird, okay?

00:23.61

lostinthegroove

It's not watched by yourself.

00:24.05

hi

this is it

00:25.21

lostinthegroove

It it just... Yeah,

00:28.94

hi

tv If it's like if it's on Kate, if it's on the channel, it's like already on, you're like, OK.

00:30.20

lostinthegroove

yeah maybe.

00:34.32

lostinthegroove

But but but it was design like anything about like if you watch the movie from start to it was designed to watch with an audience or friends.

00:43.89

hi

of the girl Yeah, it's made for a theater.

00:45.05

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

00:47.54

hi

It's made to be like shown.

00:47.82

lostinthegroove

Yeah. Performance.

00:51.76

hi

I feel like I love Rocky Horror for a lot of different reasons. I was young when I saw it.

01:03.35

hi

I had heard about it, seen pictures of it, but didn't really know what it was, and I had a friend that um was kind of like more edgy and her parents were kind of more eccentric and it was her birthday and she was having a sleepover and ah her parents were letting us make like virgin cocktails and they were like letting us like I don't know her parents are different than mine and like

01:27.41

lostinthegroove

ah her

01:37.69

lostinthegroove

They're a little wild, let's just.

01:39.58

hi

my parents would never like even entertain the idea of a drink even if it was like idea so like I

01:45.44

lostinthegroove

were Were they the ones that like put the VHS tape in the, you know, TV monitor and they're just like, all right, here's your Virgin cocktails. Here's your Rocky Horror. Did you watch it at the sleepover?

02:03.13

hi

ah So, yeah, that's part of the story. So I my dad was taking me over to the sleepover. And when my dad dropped me off at the front door, the girl's mother asked my dad if it was OK if we watched the Rocky Horror Picture Show. And my dad said yes. And I remember feeling privileged to see it like it was like a

02:33.01

lostinthegroove

Did your dad know what it was? I i mean, yeah, okay.

02:34.78

hi

Oh yeah. Now my mom and dad went to Rocky Horror Picture Show as a date um when they were dating.

02:43.33

lostinthegroove

Oh, damn.

02:43.44

hi

So what year did that come out?

02:47.09

lostinthegroove

1974.

02:48.87

hi

Yeah so my mom and dad I believe were married um and they probably got to like get out of the house for the night and like go see the movie.

02:59.83

hi

I said everybody talked about it like it was like you know most everybody went uh

03:05.50

lostinthegroove

The:

03:28.48

lostinthegroove

And it was kind of like the filmmakers and the music writers like took this approach to like, well, guess what? Fuck you. We're going to put nudity.

03:37.29

hi

Yeah.

03:38.39

lostinthegroove

We're going to put pornographic images. We're going to make something.

03:41.62

hi

It's interesting.

03:42.83

lostinthegroove

Horror Picture Show, you have:

03:57.61

lostinthegroove

It's a technically, it's like:

04:05.06

hi

I just think that something about Rocky Horror, it kind of like was passable.

04:05.40

lostinthegroove

um There's Logan's run.

04:11.55

hi

Like for instance, like my mother went and saw it in the theaters. It's interesting how it was very sexual, but at the same time, it was kind of like for like, no one took it too seriously.

04:26.80

hi

You know, like it was like, oh, movies, you know, like, and i I remember asking mom, I was like, Oh, that's really, you know, sexual and like pretty, you know, that's really awful that he sleeps with these, you know, both the man and the woman and the the new marriage and My mother goes, oh, he's just that tempting. you know And it was like, kind of she just joked about it. And she was like, he's an alien. you know And like my mother, somebody who is extremely religious,

05:02.47

hi

ah understands that it's for entertainment value. She doesn't find it threatening. It doesn't seem satanic. It doesn't seem like dark. It's honestly just kind of nonsense to her. And so for her, it's like it's still fun entertainment. And I just think that somehow in the 70s, they were able to accomplish like entertaining people with this like wide variety of thoughts without people connecting it to their everyday experiences.

05:38.11

lostinthegroove

It's because...

05:38.71

hi

It's like people could understand the difference between theatrics and entertainment and your everyday life.

05:42.00

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

05:45.90

lostinthegroove

It's because there was a time where, I mean, we both remember this. We remember comedy movies. Okay, we remember real, real comedy movies.

05:53.30

hi

Oh God, yeah, no. Do you remember Vince Vaughn?

05:57.34

lostinthegroove

Yes!

05:58.11

hi

His voice is so entertaining.

06:00.70

lostinthegroove

a e It is.

06:01.31

hi

I just have to say he's a lost art and I've heard a lot of bad things about him, but he was, he was great. Okay. Go on.

06:07.79

lostinthegroove

But no, no, no, like what I'm trying to get at is there was a time where that the film industry was not bought.

06:08.16

hi

Sorry.

06:17.34

lostinthegroove

OK, they were an entity that created. Material, they created these incredible stories like Mel Brooks, all right, Mel Brooks and the producers, all right, and that goddamn Hitler.

06:32.33

hi

Oh, the producers is amazing.

06:33.67

lostinthegroove

So like. ah Amazing.

06:36.41

hi

Don't even get me started.

06:38.64

lostinthegroove

Okay, there's so many amazing movies and just... because back then they said we don't care if you're democrat or republican we don't give a shit about agendas we don't care about being racist okay we don't care about being culturally correct that's not what movies and television is about it's about creative people telling i'm sorry i'm getting like really agitated it's creative people telling

07:05.86

hi

Well, apparently, yeah.

07:14.47

lostinthegroove

incredible stories in their own voice, in their own way.

07:16.99

hi

I mean, I'm sure that there's some like historic person that would argue with us that like politics has always been part of entertainment.

07:22.57

lostinthegroove

ah

07:25.13

lostinthegroove

ke a movie with Jane Fonda in:

07:55.38

lostinthegroove

You get what I'm saying? like

07:59.56

lostinthegroove

It's satire. It's a story. like Movies are not supposed to be real.

08:05.52

hi

Yeah.

08:05.55

lostinthegroove

ah right It's a movie, even based on a true story.

08:07.84

hi

So then like the fact that it's not supposed to be real is like I think what keeps it from being so like offensive.

08:09.26

lostinthegroove

It's a movie.

08:17.25

hi

But then when everybody starts taking big everything so seriously, then it's like you can't have fun. Everybody starts complaining.

08:25.54

lostinthegroove

I remember when Once Upon a Time came out, okay? um There was a bit of an argument because ah they had Cass Elliot, Mama Cass. She was part of the the Mamas and Pampas, which was a group in the 60s. And like they had a little short like part of her in there. And then like there were people that were complaining online about how there this movie is fat shaming because Mama Cass was a plus-sized woman and they only gave her a short amount of screen time whereas more thin Characters of the time got more screenplay.

09:07.44

lostinthegroove

I'm just like thinking myself. Okay That's not what once upon a time is ah about Like they do have some people that were from the past that's in there.

09:18.59

lostinthegroove

Okay, but that's It's a movie it's

09:23.59

hi

People are just like haunt hunting for like areas to be offended.

09:26.07

lostinthegroove

Right, right. Yeah, hunting. Oh, my God, that is that is. Yeah, that's that's a really good way of putting it.

09:34.90

hi

Well, I think there's this like, don't they call that cherry picking to like where you're just kind of like picking out

09:40.44

lostinthegroove

Yeah, very much, very much so.

09:43.53

hi

like the little things that you're looking for, but like cherry picking is like even more specific for something else. But like and I do, I think that the the way that people like fish for compliments, they're, they're kind of like fishing for being offended um in different ways.

10:00.59

hi

I, you know, I work in the industry and the beauty industry or just, you know, I think sometimes you'll have a client

10:01.57

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

10:10.39

hi

that is, you know, fishing for an imperfection. There are certain people that they look at the negative. Um, I think we were talking about this, you know, in the last episode where I talked about like, you know, forcing yourself to like, look at the positivity of things or like, look at like the upside or look past the the negativity and think, well, that must be why.

10:33.29

lostinthegroove

it's It's the same way like with my car right now. like Things are breaking down. like I gotta change my struts. I gotta to take care of this seal. and that But guess what? I got a warranty for another 900,000 miles. So in my head, positivity, it's like, this car, keep breaking. Keep going. Just keep breaking. I'm serious. like You got 900,000 miles. like That may be like, holy shit, like you need a car. I understand that, but you know what? The positive side of it is, is that like, this is my current situation. This is a good benefit. Like, I'm gonna make the best of the situation.

11:13.32

hi

and

11:17.23

lostinthegroove

Wow, that was... Yeah, I had nowhere else I was going with that. Except that.

11:22.20

hi

No, I mean, Yesterday at work, I had to scrub a floor on my hands and knees for nearly three hours.

11:35.32

lostinthegroove

Three hours.

11:37.04

hi

Two and a half.

11:39.48

lostinthegroove

Okay, so you're like rounding it.

11:39.55

hi

Three.

11:41.33

lostinthegroove

You're just shaving the corners just.

11:45.50

hi

Definitely more than two.

11:47.25

lostinthegroove

Okay, so like two and a quarter.

11:49.58

hi

Yeah, my thighs. And the ankles were really sore because I kept going between like deciding to like get on my actual knees or like sit on my butt or like squat.

12:03.97

hi

But like I was like, why do we not have different tools for this? I'm like scrubbing with like a brush. It's like, what the fuck? Like.

12:13.34

lostinthegroove

You're scrubbing with a brush.

12:15.83

hi

Yeah, I had to get all this wax off the floor. My arm is like still tired from like doing the like scrub motion.

12:22.70

lostinthegroove

Didn't that like bother your shoulder or neck or your shoulder neck?

12:25.55

hi

ah Yeah. Yeah. My shoulders all fucked up and I got to scrub this floor for like hours. I was all pissed off and stressed out.

12:33.17

lostinthegroove

Why don't you just make one of the students do it?

12:35.71

hi

There were no students there yesterday.

12:39.08

lostinthegroove

What happened?

12:39.47

hi

And I can't just make people do shit. You know me.

12:42.27

lostinthegroove

Oh, come on. You're a teacher. You can do whatever the hell you want.

12:44.25

hi

I'm not going to do that.

12:45.11

lostinthegroove

You got the magical wand. You'd be like, bitch.

12:46.85

hi

Yeah, and then their mom comes in.

12:49.31

lostinthegroove

Oh, shit.

12:49.39

hi

Why are you making my students scrub this floor?

12:52.07

lostinthegroove

Because it helps their morale. I don't know. It's a good one, though.

12:56.15

hi

I'm just gonna have to clean it more often and tell it so that it doesn't build up like that.

12:57.30

lostinthegroove

Also, their morale.

13:01.89

hi

But like, dude, I was so tired.

13:02.03

lostinthegroove

But do you want to clean it more often?

13:05.03

hi

I just have to.

13:07.23

lostinthegroove

Why does it pour all over the floor like I don't get this? Like.

13:11.61

hi

Did I already bitch about this?

13:13.64

lostinthegroove

No, like are are these people like just not careful with getting wha- Oh my god, ah is it from the students just like dripping wax?

13:19.46

hi

It's because they're students. They're like new. So like, yeah, it does. It drips. Yeah.

13:27.70

lostinthegroove

That is...

13:30.74

lostinthegroove

It's irritating.

13:30.98

hi

It's been like like 10 weeks.

13:34.89

hi

You know, like it's just it's built up over time.

13:37.50

lostinthegroove

I love how you say that. Like, yeah, it's just only been 10 weeks. Like that hasn't been like a long time.

13:44.64

hi

It is a long time.

13:45.68

lostinthegroove

It is a long time.

13:46.21

hi

That's what I'm saying. Like it's been a long time.

13:46.84

lostinthegroove

Like it's multiple months.

13:48.69

hi

It's built up.

13:50.72

lostinthegroove

It's not like. How many months is this? I like four.

13:53.97

hi

It's nearly three.

13:56.24

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

13:57.40

hi

Wait, is it three?

13:59.38

lostinthegroove

No, it's well, eight is.

13:59.59

hi

Eight, nine, 10, 12. 12 is three months.

14:04.88

lostinthegroove

So it's almost three months.

14:05.09

hi

It's probably been. Yeah, it's probably been 12. To be honest, it's probably been three months.

14:10.60

lostinthegroove

yeah So you've had two classes already kind of crazy cuz like I'm in my third week like third course and We have 18 total So, um, that's I have 16 more to go And then me and before you know, it'll be ten

14:13.51

hi

Yeah, two, maybe three.

14:27.70

hi

woe Whoa. That's way too many.

14:43.75

lostinthegroove

like kind of like collecting all of my thoughts because it's kind of we're it's hard to be able to like sit down for a minute and be able to think like really like not only about like the amount of time but like pertaining to how people think like

15:05.70

hi

Yeah.

15:14.16

lostinthegroove

are so fucking sensitive these days. It's like Jesus.

15:19.32

lostinthegroove

Okay, I got to tell you this story, right? It's it's kind of crazy. um So at school, I have a Leeloo and Stitch lounge flying back.

15:31.18

lostinthegroove

Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the the backpack is like kind of shaped like Stitch. It's got the ears, right?

15:36.82

hi

Yeah.

15:37.75

lostinthegroove

I'm not going to take it out. Like just go on Google and Google it. um So I was in class, I finish up, everything's great. I get all my stuff, I pack it up. My teacher, he screams out, he's like, what's that?

15:53.95

lostinthegroove

And I like, I turn and I look at him and he's like, I was like, what?

15:55.45

hi

v

15:57.90

lostinthegroove

And I have like my laptop bag, it's like a Coca-Cola bed and it has a polar bear on there. I was like, are you talking about this? And he's like, no, on your back. And I'm like, you mean my stitch bag? And he's like, a what?

16:09.65

lostinthegroove

and I'm like a stitch bag like it's Lilo and Stitch and I go to like sign out and he's like how do you spell that and I'm like STI TCH and he's like oh stitch and I'm like yeah it's like what is that and I'm like Well, it's, yeah, he's an alien.

16:25.67

hi

He's an alien.

16:28.66

lostinthegroove

It's a Disney movie cartoon that came out in the tooth. And I just like walk out of there, okay? And I'm walking down with a few of my other classmates. And one of the guys from my other class, he's now in a different class, he's in his in his Tesla and we're talking and I'm like, I'm telling him this story and I'm like, yo, my teacher called me out for being a faggot.

16:54.81

lostinthegroove

And he just like had that look. he And I was like, yeah, like he pointed out my bag and he just like gives me that look, like exactly like look you're giving me right now.

17:06.86

lostinthegroove

And he's just to be, he's like, wait a minute. You a faggot? Like exactly like that.

17:14.09

hi

No!

17:16.27

lostinthegroove

And I was just like, okay, all right. And he's like, and I was like, yeah, sometimes it's like, what do you mean? So like, It's on and off, and I'm like, nah, I'm just fucking with you. And he's like, ah, cool. And he like rolls up the window and drives away slowly. Another classmate looks at me, he's like, yo, you let it have it hard.

17:43.63

hi

Oh my God. I feel like he's probably embarrassed that he like insulted you.

17:46.36

lostinthegroove

No, he didn't embarrass me. Like, no, because I was like just.

17:52.08

hi

No, like he's embarrassed that like he himself is embarrassed.

17:59.62

lostinthegroove

but I was just like just pure fucking around like that's what I'm telling you like That kind of shit Is hilarious to me because I love satire in its purest form like when I watch like for example like a television show like curb of enthusiasm like with Let's be very honest it Larry

18:20.37

hi

Yeah, I love Curb.

18:24.24

hi

It's fucking funny, man. That's some smart ass humor. That's what type.

18:29.43

lostinthegroove

Here's the crazy part, though.

18:30.50

hi

Yeah.

18:30.51

lostinthegroove

He's like that in real life.

18:32.08

hi

Larry David's incredible. He's so, he's fascinating. he he's He's very, very brilliant when it comes to comedy. I have brought my i have my friends work on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

18:48.93

lostinthegroove

She works on the show.

18:50.67

hi

Marcella, she's a prop manager or so something in the arts department. Yeah, I have i have friends.

18:56.54

lostinthegroove

she still there no but she's in France these days isn't she it's like it's like one of the last there are a few shows that still have survived like they're kind of god-fathered in almost where they can just

19:00.79

hi

Yeah, but Chasen might work on Kirby enthusiasm whenever they film, but I i know artists that work on Kirby enthusiasm basically is how we'll sum that up for the

19:21.42

lostinthegroove

like South Park can do whatever they want.

19:24.58

hi

Oh.

19:25.39

lostinthegroove

If they want to make a video about like furry pedophiles, they're going to make it. No one is going to stop them.

19:33.07

hi

I feel like I caught a little bit of South Park the other night and they were doing some smart ass shit. um That was pretty relevant.

19:40.86

lostinthegroove

It's gotten it's gotten crazy.

19:44.90

hi

South Park guys.

19:46.83

lostinthegroove

like you think this show has tamed like The Simpsons has tamed down over the years. South Park has gotten crazier. Like you thought you you you thought, you know, Saddam Hussein fucking the devil was bad.

19:56.82

hi

I believe it.

20:04.35

lostinthegroove

Bro. Oh, that was hilarious. That was so funny.

20:08.60

hi

I don't know.

20:09.10

lostinthegroove

o

20:09.54

hi

I feel like.

20:13.50

hi

I feel like when I come to South Park, like I don't like I want it to be kind of like clever. Like, don't get me wrong. but I don't need it to be as far as like witty.

20:26.82

hi

Like I do want it to be a little bit of mindless humor, yet clever, but like i I sometimes feel like South Park is like shoving like too much into an episode or that they're making it too wordy or they're like that's kind of where they've lost me slightly is that I kind of want

20:45.11

lostinthegroove

Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

20:50.67

hi

I kind of feel like it used to let me zone out a little bit more and now it's a little bit more like drama, like wordy, like witty, like comedy, which isn't what I come to South Park for.

21:04.10

lostinthegroove

that That's kind of...

21:07.64

lostinthegroove

Well, that's kind of what happened with like Rick and Morty because like Rick and Morty, kind of the problem with it was it kind of took too long for the seasons to be released.

21:19.79

lostinthegroove

Like people, people that are young right now, you don't understand. We waited years between Rick and Morty series, like years like we would just rewatch episodes over and over again.

21:25.73

hi

Yeah I did.

21:33.15

lostinthegroove

And the like it kind of lost its magic, because by the time you got to the second season, you were just sick of the first one.

21:37.49

hi

Yeah.

21:42.83

lostinthegroove

And then you hash through the second, and then you're just back doing the same. I think South Park has kind of gotten into that almost loop. And again, this look, this is my personal beef, and like we can kind of like finesse with this.

22:00.79

lostinthegroove

There's just too many opinions. It's like, let comedy be funny. Let movies be movies again, okay? Like, and enough. ah you You don't need to have 28 black people in there to be culturally appropriate and make sure that 15 of them are trans. Like, I don't care. Just make good, just make good shit that we can enjoy for a while. Like, that's honestly what I'm saying. like That's all that matters, personally.

22:33.25

hi

Oh, you know, and like part of me like hopes that like at some point it'll balance out like they'll get like enough of whatever it is that media thinks that they need to do that like eventually it'll balance out. But like then the other part of me kicks in and says no, then it'll just leeway for all kinds of other crazy shit that they want to add into media that you know, that's it's just not like necessary I feel like just to have have a story about people and have all the people in it, what is the big deal?

23:10.17

hi

like

23:11.97

lostinthegroove

It's just a it's just a movie like it's just a movie.

23:12.03

hi

We used to watch shows like you'd have a story about like five kids and the one kid, you know, she always dresses like a boy, but nobody ever says anything about it.

23:26.45

lostinthegroove

It's just a movie.

23:26.56

hi

That's just her her style. It's just that person style doesn't even have to be heard. It's the person style. ah It doesn't matter.

23:35.47

lostinthegroove

Why do you think we loved what do you think we what do you think we love sitcoms like so much like people are like, well, Joey couldn't and and um and Chandler couldn't really afford their palm.

23:35.60

hi

It's just people, people in the movie.

23:46.24

lostinthegroove

It's like, dude, sitcoms existed. Like, I remember why sitcoms existed. It was where you're doing chores, or you're kind of like making dinner, or you're kind of just like,

23:58.54

lostinthegroove

kind of getting things ready and it was there just a way to wind down sometimes you'd watch it after a long day you'd sit there maybe read your newspaper relax on the couch take off your shoes that's what a sitcom was was a good quick laugh it was easy to unwind too we didn't care if it was cultural appropriate it was nice when Seinfeld had some of the weird episodes it was nice like when Friends was a little bit out of the box sometimes but like

24:30.17

lostinthegroove

I understand that times have changed, but not allowing creators to be creative. I think is a disadvantage. I don't think that see that as an advantage. I don't know. It's just this is just my personal state. I know you're fucking exhausted, but.

24:48.25

hi

No, I'm good. I'm just thinking about like sitcoms in general.

24:53.10

lostinthegroove

Like what, like King of Queens, everybody loves Raymond, Frasier, Cheers.

24:56.51

hi

No, kind of just like, well, I spent a lot of time marathoning cheers.

25:03.40

lostinthegroove

Golden Girls.

25:06.07

hi

There was one moment where I watched like six seasons of cheers.

25:11.13

lostinthegroove

Everybody knows your name.

25:14.43

hi

It was kind of good for a minute and then it was not good at all anymore, but I could see why people watched it.

25:19.64

lostinthegroove

With cheers.

25:21.17

hi

Yeah.

25:22.42

lostinthegroove

After Coach, the one I played, I was reading, I read an article, it was, I honestly like, I had heart palpitations. When he passed away, it's like almost like the cast kind of like died because he kind of like brought everybody.

25:41.89

lostinthegroove

If you watch the earlier seasons with Coach, he.

25:44.01

hi

Yeah, that's all I watched. Yeah.

25:46.30

lostinthegroove

But then when you watch it without like, um what's his name, Woody? I forgot his name, it's like one of the. um

25:58.62

hi

I don't know when I'm marathon that it was like quite some time ago. And I think I had already watched all of friends.

26:02.47

lostinthegroove

Yeah, I mean, it didn't it didn't age gracefully. I've watched all of Friends three times.

26:11.30

hi

I don't know. People are going back. They're like rewatching everything. Like what I had ah friends that went back, they watched all of Dawson's Creek.

26:19.94

lostinthegroove

I've watched the whole Jeffersons. Every single season.

26:24.87

hi

It's a fucking great dude.

26:26.39

lostinthegroove

Yeah, um, Family Matters. Watched all of them. ah a Uh...

26:34.05

hi

I mean, I watched all the sex in the city, but that's pretty common.

26:34.18

lostinthegroove

Golden Girls. Yeah.

26:38.18

hi

I watched all the golden girls, all the Seinfeld.

26:39.41

lostinthegroove

but You got... Okay, so, Sigh Waiver a second. You were the one that got me into Sex and the City because we got into a conversation. I was like telling you that I remember when he's gonna blockbuster.

26:52.14

lostinthegroove

um Dead serious there used to be an adult section Okay, I shit you not and sex in the city was in the adult section And I'm like remember like passing it Yeah I think like no none so dude There was a porn section with that

26:56.57

hi

Yeah, yeah.

27:05.30

hi

That's ridiculous. Do you mean like a doll other than like the porn section? Because if it was the porn section, you wouldn't have even seen the cover. There was a porn section too. But I was like secret.

27:22.82

lostinthegroove

Yeah, it was kind of on the side. This was where I believe like 17 and 18 plus, like you had to show ID to be able to take, I don't know, maybe this was a New York thing, but usually content that was kind of like sexual or like adult, you'd either need like a parent or you'd need an ID to be able to check it out of a block.

27:43.42

hi

Yeah. Yeah.

27:46.69

lostinthegroove

So anyways, I gotta to do this cut.

27:46.79

hi

Oh yeah.

27:48.46

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

27:48.59

hi

Yeah. You definitely couldn't rent it. Like there were rules like, yeah, we used to have to have my friends like parent, like rent like the PG 13 stuff for us.

27:54.05

lostinthegroove

imagine that like you right?

28:00.76

hi

Like we weren't allowed to get it.

28:02.36

lostinthegroove

Yeah, because you weren't at age.

28:02.78

hi

Yeah.

28:04.35

lostinthegroove

So um, that was the thing when I was talking to you about it. And then I remember watching the very first and I remember watching the very first like episode of Sex in the City.

28:18.87

lostinthegroove

I sat there. I was just

28:24.67

lostinthegroove

I was in awe. I was like, I want more of this. And it's just amazing because like every single season opens up a new door, new people, new experiences.

28:37.59

lostinthegroove

And like, you almost feel as if you're Carrie Bradshaw or or Samantha or Charlotte.

28:44.72

hi

No, it's really good. I was just thinking back to the fact that I tried.

28:49.86

lostinthegroove

We love Charlotte.

28:51.17

hi

I love Charlotte.

28:51.30

lostinthegroove

Charlotte, I love Charlotte.

28:53.88

hi

I was thinking back to the fact that I tried to watch the Brady Bunch, like the old show, like I tried to like watch. I tried to marathon.

29:03.22

lostinthegroove

It's hard, it's hard, it's horrible.

29:04.32

hi

It's horrible.

29:06.31

lostinthegroove

It's really, really hard to swallow.

29:07.59

hi

really bad. It really is.

29:09.83

lostinthegroove

It's so cheesy and it's like, hey Chucky, what you doing today? Oh no, you dropped your pen.

29:20.55

hi

oh Okay, I just have to say it's extremely, extremely sexist.

29:23.41

lostinthegroove

Yeah, they had a serious commercial by the way, which was crazy. What, the Brady Bunch? Oh yeah, big time.

29:33.26

hi

And the camera like is so selective about what it's looking at. The camera is a perverted old man. Like the camera is constantly checking out the women and like there there's like scenes where she's like brushing her hair and like getting ready and it's like why?

29:44.43

lostinthegroove

Is always on women, always.

30:00.51

hi

Why are we doing this in the show? Like actually?

30:04.24

lostinthegroove

It was the sixties. It was a different time.

30:06.54

hi

No, but it's like I really don't understand why we're watching her get ready for bed. Like I really don't understand why we're watching her zipper come all the way down and we're not like letting this girl get ready for bed alone.

30:13.10

lostinthegroove

little weird.

30:23.40

hi

Like I don't really understand like

30:26.07

lostinthegroove

Well, I'll tell you,

30:26.36

hi

why ah Why am I even in her bedroom right now in this episode? How is this relevant to the episode at all? It's really awful.

30:35.49

lostinthegroove

You know.

30:36.63

hi

It's like they're following around those young blonde girls with the camera. like the whole It's really awful.

30:40.51

lostinthegroove

yeah Well, it's wild when you look at like one of my favorite TV shows of all time is a Mary Tyler Moore show. Mary Tyler Moore had to have the help of her husband.

30:55.74

lostinthegroove

Nobody wants to admit that in:

31:22.82

lostinthegroove

And my God, like I understand that it came out like over 40 years ago, watching this woman be like, why does he get paid more than me?

31:33.66

lostinthegroove

like We're doing the same job. like How is that fair? And then her boss looking back at her, he's like, well, you're just a woman. And she looks at him him like, and like you can see the rage in her.

31:48.80

hi

The gas lighting is so hard.

31:50.38

lostinthegroove

Right. Right. Yeah. And like it's so recognizable to this time, like even now that like and you see the polar opposites because the Brady Bunch and the Mary Tyler Moore show came around the same time the same way you have like a movie like Rocky Horror Picture Show. um Give me another like clean 70s movie. um

32:16.67

hi

I mean, Rocky Horror is not clean. What do you mean?

32:18.72

lostinthegroove

No, Rocky Horshires, I'm like thinking dirty and then like comparing it to something that was clean. um ah like

32:25.93

hi

Well, I mean, the ABBA movies.

32:29.12

lostinthegroove

The Abba movies, oh yeah, the Abba movies. Holy shit, I totally totally forgot.

32:34.29

hi

Motherfucking mamma mia.

32:37.03

lostinthegroove

Ha, ha.

32:38.21

hi

Here we go again.

32:40.25

lostinthegroove

Nah, nah.

32:41.24

hi

ah yeah no I hate that movie I'm sorry you enjoy everybody else enjoy but I don't know I mean like really really clean 70s movies I never kept track of them because all my favorites are the ones that were like bad

32:47.36

lostinthegroove

Andante andante!

32:56.89

lostinthegroove

Right? You see what I mean? That's what I'm telling you. It's like, that's the the culture shock like of the 70s. I'm not saying the 70s was the best decade. There's something about creative nature in humans that existed. We got blazing saddles. We got Willy Wonka. We got Jaws. we The list just goes on the amount of creativity that exists.

33:25.12

lostinthegroove

Like we got wings in the 70s. OK, we got the Jackson five.

33:29.31

hi

I mean, I do think that the economy was in a situation where people were able to do that kind of thing, you know, they're living.

33:36.20

lostinthegroove

Yeah, like Cher.

33:39.00

hi

There were a lot of people, you're like on crack right now, but you didn't, you didn't tell me that you started doing crack, but you and all your new school friends, you guys are doing crack.

33:39.01

lostinthegroove

Dolly, park I'm sorry, I'm just throwing names out there. I'm just oh, there's just so much. Yeah.

33:48.49

lostinthegroove

oh yeah oh

33:53.70

lostinthegroove

falling from the mouth. We should wrap up.

33:57.21

hi

Yeah, I hope my students don't do bad drugs.

34:01.10

lostinthegroove

No, we only do that stuff so we can be creative and great podcasters.

34:07.99

hi

Thanks for listening to American Groove.

34:08.12

lostinthegroove

Hey, and you learned some stuff and you got to walk down the road with us to there's a life.

34:23.17

lostinthegroove

I thought you were going to like continue. But.

34:25.33

hi

There's a light on the ocean. and

34:28.87

lostinthegroove

No, it's on Frankenstein's place. Yeah, I don't remember all the lyrics for Rocky Horror, but we love you, motherfuckers.

34:33.11

hi

as those

34:36.83

lostinthegroove

You want to check out a cursory confinder at American Groove Pod. And if you want to check out more of the podcast, Lost in the Groove, you can find us on Facebook, TikTok, Instagram and YouTube at Lost in the Groove Pod.

34:51.07

lostinthegroove

So with that.

34:54.36

lostinthegroove

shall bid the farewell.

34:57.33

hi

Piers, thank you for listening. Have a good one.

34:59.56

lostinthegroove

He said motherfuckers go watch Rocky Horror Picture Show if you haven't watched them telling us amazing.

35:01.35

hi

Bye-bye.

35:04.23

lostinthegroove

All right, boy.

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Lost in the Groove is my space to explore the real, raw, and unexpected. I started this podcast because I was tired of feeling like nothing ever changes. My therapist once suggested, I write letters to the government to express my frustrations. Then I thought, "Why not create a podcast instead?" Here, I can talk about what I want, with whoever I want, no matter their beliefs. For me, it's about having honest conversations,. Breaking down walls, and getting people to think beyond the surface.

I grew up in a blue-collar family in the suburbs outside New York City, raised as an Orthodox Jew. Leaving the religious community in 2017 was a pivotal moment for me. It allowed me to embrace my identity as an artist, and chart my own path. Who I am today, and what this podcast represents, is deeply tied to my journey. Leaving a community that was a cult; still is. Discovering authenticity, creativity, and independence in myself.

I’m a car enthusiast, an artist, and someone who thrives on creative expression. From old-school rap, and psychedelic rock. To vintage muscle cars and European classics. I’m all about the things that inspire passion.
My co-host, Karissa Andrews, joins me for American Groove. Our segment on stoner culture, and life’s weirder twists. She’s an incredibly talented makeup artist, aesthetician, and candle maker. She brings a spice, pizazz, and realness to every conversation.

This podcast isn’t about chasing fame or conforming to trends, it’s about the experience. I want listener, whether they’re driving home, cooking, or just unwinding. To feel like they’re part of something real. Lost in the Groove is my way of staying true to myself, while connecting with others. learning, and having fun along the way.