Episode 77
American Groove - #77 The Earthworm Stoner
We get into the bizarre phenomenon of songs that won’t leave your head. From Pump Up the Jam, Electric Avenue, and Buffalo Solider. We explored the strange ways music sticks with us and why certain tunes seem to haunt us for life. We also delved into the emotional triggers behind music. Discussing how certain melodies bring back memories or even offer healing. With plenty of bullshit about ringtones, musical nostalgia. The big question of Why Bob Marley’s songs are perfect for stoners? It’s a fun, musical ride that’ll keep you hooked from when you light down to the roach.
But, as always, we shift gears, landing on the creative process itself. We share thoughts on how music ties into memory. The odd phenomenon of "brain tunnels". And how iconic artists like Billy Joel create magic that leaves a lasting mark on listeners. With the usual bullshit and unfiltered musings, you’re in for another wild ride. So roll one, hit play, and let's groove tonight!
The host of American Groove is Karissa Andrews. A licensed aesthetician, makeup artist, and lover of pugs. The best part is that you can check out her work on Instagram:
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Karissa's name for the week is "Teen Mind."
Transcript
00:00.00
lostinthegroove
There are moments.
00:00.25
upinsmoke
No, do I look really bad? What's going on?
00:02.00
lostinthegroove
No, you don't look really bad. You look fine.
00:03.94
upinsmoke
Oh, okay.
00:05.35
lostinthegroove
I mean, it's.
00:10.30
lostinthegroove
It's one of those.
00:13.22
lostinthegroove
The light.
00:17.27
lostinthegroove
So it's kind of a. It's kind of a really a thought or a ponder, right?
00:23.83
upinsmoke
Ooh, ponder.
00:24.59
lostinthegroove
Where? OK. Everybody talks about, you know, how things are like real crazy, you know, and like real insane right now, right? But nobody like wants to talk about the fact that like fucking 100 years ago, okay, in New York City, they had fucking horses.
00:47.99
lostinthegroove
All right, shitting everywhere. People lived in disease. All right. There was no like clean water. All right. You just lived in absolute filth. All right. You think like we live like fucking kings and queens compared to those people. I'm just saying.
01:11.76
lostinthegroove
Just saying you know it's like a little bit of a thought there for a sec You know like I hear you the things are crazy, but you don't have no white people We're in the KKK outfits fucking shooting black people all the time no more think so.
01:28.66
upinsmoke
People argue and say that it's still like full-fledged happening I Not like it used to not like it used to but people will argue and say that it's still a thing I told you that when my grandpa was in the Army Navy my grandpa was in the Navy my
01:35.03
lostinthegroove
I don't believe I don't believe that bullshit Nah
01:50.80
upinsmoke
Mom's dad, i he was in a locker room or you know like something when he was in the Navy. And some guy asked him if he wanted to join the KKK and showed him a KKK card. And my grandpa was like, no.
02:14.14
upinsmoke
He was like, yeah, no.
02:15.99
lostinthegroove
it a big
02:17.45
upinsmoke
And he was like, he's like, don't you ever fucking talk to me about any of that shit ever again. And he was like, you ever, you know, be doing stuff like that around here. He's like, we'll kick your ass.
02:28.96
upinsmoke
But he asked him. So it's a real thing. At least it was back then.
02:36.39
lostinthegroove
yeah but you know what it's
02:36.62
upinsmoke
It was.
02:38.62
lostinthegroove
looking at the ability that we have today is astronomic with all of the issues and the problems that we have, we live in a really great time. Look, I am the type of you know future mechanic, future auto technician, that I love old cars. But at the same time, I do realize like all of the things that we have progressed with and gotten so much better with, even within that industry, and like so many other things,
03:15.93
upinsmoke
Hmm.
03:16.76
lostinthegroove
There's a lot of problems agreed. But there's still a lot of great things that are going on.
03:23.91
upinsmoke
Yeah, I think where we went wrong is that we got too many people concentrated in a small area. Um, and that's like where you get like disease and like poverty and different things like that.
03:38.41
upinsmoke
Like if you,
03:38.84
lostinthegroove
Because prices and everything just keep going up.
03:41.42
upinsmoke
If you have a good balance between like resources and the amount of people, then it'll be fine. But if you don't have enough people, you can't get enough resources. But if you have enough people, you got a good balance, you'd be fine. But once our cities started to grow,
04:01.57
upinsmoke
and Become like populated like ah one thing that I always thought was really fascinating was like this documentary that I saw on like Milk and there was this like giant like poisoning that happened and like I think it was like New York City or like some big-ass city or something like back in like the 20s or 40s, I don't know, such a terrible like description of what happened, but it's like I'm generalizing like a million things.
04:21.82
lostinthegroove
ye old days.
04:27.26
upinsmoke
But what happened is like the city was like kind of okay and you know they're like distributing milk and it's like kind of okay. But then once the city like grew like more deeply and they started distributing like more milk out like at a bigger level to more people,
04:45.00
upinsmoke
Um, some type of disease spread and it was like in the milk and it, because there were so many people in such a dense area, it affected so many people that it like killed like a bunch of children.
04:57.55
upinsmoke
And like, I think that like, and but the issue is that there's too many people in this like tight little city and it's been proven many times that it's unhealthy.
04:59.17
lostinthegroove
Do you do you want to sing?
05:08.52
upinsmoke
It's unhealthy for people to live like that, that we should be more spread out.
05:12.45
lostinthegroove
It's funny you mentioned milk, because I found out a weird fact the other day. Do you know that we ah Al Capone Al Capone is one that's responsible for putting expiration dates on milk?
05:25.22
upinsmoke
No, I didn't know, but that's...
05:26.49
lostinthegroove
Is that wild?
05:27.97
upinsmoke
that's good.
05:29.05
lostinthegroove
Yeah, because like there was no expiration date and people were just drinking sour milk ah because they thought it was OK.
05:36.85
upinsmoke
I'm not a big milk drinker. Like, I don't... I don't like milk for the most part, but I put a lot of milk in my coffees and like my lattes.
05:45.92
lostinthegroove
You know what, ah it's interesting because people is particularly in this country don't really understand and how dairy arrives in the grocery store. Because most people think like it's the grocery stores responsibility of getting the dairy into their stores. It's not how it works.
06:04.69
upinsmoke
I don't know, but in Iowa, we have like a local dairy distributor that like all of our milk comes from like seriously, like just a few miles away.
06:16.25
lostinthegroove
Yeah, most places don't have that.
06:18.61
upinsmoke
Yeah. I know that they have one in a few different like cities. Like I've, I've moved to places and been like, you know, like what's your your local milk? We have Anderson Erickson and then like, they make all of the dairy products like in that area, like area. So they make all the cream cheese, they make all the dips, they make string cheese, they make all your cheeses, they make everything like, and they make it all local.
06:48.06
lostinthegroove
It's a Wisconsin's pleasure.
06:48.32
upinsmoke
Um, yeah it's a Iowa thing, but like, yeah, I mean, they'll make everything that you end up buying. That's like dairy, um, yogurts, all of it.
07:00.94
lostinthegroove
the the The wild thing is we live in a country where we can be independent. We have plenty of resources to be able to. Yeah, there are many things that we do need to rely on other other nations and other places.
07:19.16
lostinthegroove
But we have spent so much time on war and propaganda and just pure stupidity that we rely so much on export where there's so much value that exists here in this country.
07:37.14
lostinthegroove
It's like people complain that their groceries are so expensive.
07:37.91
upinsmoke
Yeah.
07:40.88
lostinthegroove
It's because none of this shit is grown here.
07:44.22
upinsmoke
Well, I mean, everything we need will come out of nature. Everything, like our medicines, everything, but we've like chosen to find other ways to source them. But I mean, we have a whole country of land. Like we have tons of available people. Like we do not need things from other places like.
08:07.75
lostinthegroove
And then it gets even more crazier when you find out that we put toxic chemicals in our foods that are banned in over a hundred countries, including Canada. And we feed that shit to kids.
08:26.47
upinsmoke
And I mean, again, a lot of this has to do with like, how many people is it that they're trying to feed? They don't have as many citizens in Canada as we do in America.
08:37.33
lostinthegroove
It's not the point.
08:37.48
upinsmoke
Like, but I'm saying that's why that I think that's why America lets it happen.
08:38.36
lostinthegroove
The point is it's also money. It's also come on. Come on. It's all of.
08:46.04
upinsmoke
Everything's always money. It's always, everything always. I remember one time I ruined an entire podcast by just being like one big dark cloud that was like, it's got the money, like on like everything.
08:57.10
lostinthegroove
Yeah. to But like, it's kind of true, though, it is all kind of but but because the thing about if they can make Doritos bright, you know, and shiny, they're going to make it fucking bright and shiny.
08:58.59
upinsmoke
I've done that.
09:02.76
upinsmoke
It is.
09:10.51
lostinthegroove
All right. They're going to make Pringles, you know, have that crisp.
09:11.37
upinsmoke
Colorful.
09:15.28
lostinthegroove
They're going to do whatever they can to throw whatever chemicals and things on there to make it as perfect as possible as a product. All I'm saying is. We need to take responsibility, which is the fact is we're gonna snack and we're gonna nosh. That's fine, okay? But not accepting the fact that we eat unhealthy food. The fact that we don't accept the fact that we live in a divided society. I don't give a shit who you are or what you are. Are you a nice person? Can we talk? Can we have a good conversation?
09:52.33
lostinthegroove
like
09:53.93
upinsmoke
I think a part of the issue with our food is that we're not eating communally anymore.
09:54.14
lostinthegroove
that's it
09:59.36
upinsmoke
We're all kind of like eating individually alone at different times.
09:59.44
lostinthegroove
now
10:03.68
upinsmoke
Like it's like I get off work and I need some food. I am on a lunch break that doesn't line up with other people. I need some alone time. ah meeting alone like and I think that human beings are meant to eat communally and that it is actually more affordable for us to eat communally to make a big meal of food that we all put a few dollars in on and then I mean we used to do that all the time in college like or after college all the time me and my friends would make like a giant brunch together and we'd all just like throw in five dollars
10:40.52
upinsmoke
And it was so much more affordable than like the way that it is like when I go to the grocery store um and ah and how much food I go through. I mean, I think we talked about food waste on the last the you know last time that we filmed where it's like, I don't need as much food as the portions that they sell it in because I'm just one person and it'll go bad, but they don't sell smaller portions.
11:06.05
upinsmoke
And then like I also feel like something's happening where food is going bad faster because I think that the big farms are not making less food. I think because people are buying less groceries because people are cutting corners like money-wise with their food.
11:26.37
lostinthegroove
Yeah, and these these large farms, like just to put it in numbers so people can have an understanding, they can pursue produce tons of cucumbers, tons.
11:26.47
upinsmoke
and so
11:36.31
upinsmoke
So I think, I don't think that they've cut down on how much they're producing. I think that what they're doing is they're so storing it and they're putting it out like slowly.
11:46.93
lostinthegroove
It's called for it's called freeze dry, but they do this all the fucking time when you buy certain
11:51.72
upinsmoke
It's not fresh anymore.
11:53.17
lostinthegroove
Yeah, like they it's called freeze dryer. Basically, like they put this in like a refrigeration process that like halts. It's like life expectancy. And then when they're ready to sell it, they pull it out, which can sometimes be up to nine months.
12:07.02
lostinthegroove
That means you buy that fucking apple. It's nine months old. So
12:11.38
upinsmoke
It's not, it's not doing anything for you. There are like these like cults, uh, in the seventies, there was one that was like really obsessed with like nutrition. And they thought that you had to eat the fruit or vegetable within a certain time period of when it detaches from the root. and They truly believed that it loses nutrients within the amount of minutes that it has been separated from its nutrient source. I mean, just fucking can imagine, like that's crazy. Now, on the other hand, I did read way back that, like,
12:52.40
upinsmoke
Broccoli, when it's cut like from the source, if it's flat, flash frozen like right away, it'll freeze all the nutrients into it. But if it's cut and it's just sold, just cut, it loses its nutrients.
13:09.90
upinsmoke
But this like flash freezing, like if they freeze it like right away, then it'll like trap all the nutrients and it is something that's kind of neat. But I don't think that's what's happening, but it could be cool if they did it that way. But most frozen vegetables that are like in bags, they freeze immediately. And so they actually have some good type of nutrients in them. But unfortunately what ends up happening is that people microwave those, the frozen vegetables often and it loses all the nutrients that was frozen into it.
13:41.77
upinsmoke
I know some things.
13:43.50
lostinthegroove
like this. Think of the year:14:01.85
lostinthegroove
1947 was the year of the industrial farms. It was the year of pretty much the industrialized consumer products, food products that we have today. And it just continued from there. What I'm trying to get at is this. You run into a point where if you remove nature from farming, which is predominantly what they've done,
14:30.40
lostinthegroove
You run out of topsoil. You create runoff that is toxic, that goes through the water supply, which basically poisons the land. It's like it takes time and effort to make a farm that is a part of nature, that doesn't defy nature in any shape or form. It's not easy. It doesn't grow as well.
14:58.60
lostinthegroove
but
15:01.39
lostinthegroove
I don't, I don't know.
15:03.00
upinsmoke
My dad pointed out that the government likes to get rid of farmland because they like tax money. So like they want buildings and mostly light homes and like dwellings and businesses to be built everywhere because then they can charge tax on all of those little square boxes that they've built on top of nature and yeah so like basically this greed for this greed for tax money is what's driven all of the the greenery to be built on top of
15:35.48
lostinthegroove
They make more money off of tax than anything else. Correct. I mean, look at Puerto Rico. Jeez.
15:53.96
upinsmoke
I mean nature is resilient though like if we if we give up nature will grow over all that concrete.
16:04.30
lostinthegroove
Look at Detroit. I mean, it's a great it's a great example of it. We're literally nature has come to its power and it just swallows up a whole house doesn't care.
16:17.58
lostinthegroove
Like, hey, you know, you're, you decided to leave. That's your choice. Well, we're, but we're gonna park ourselves here.
16:25.97
upinsmoke
It can move pretty fast.
16:26.08
lostinthegroove
It's
16:29.07
upinsmoke
It can. It's pretty cool.
16:30.01
lostinthegroove
Really quickly and I mean look at like even with the recent hurricane that hit Hurricane, um I think Helene or Helene Wild I mean, I'm literally like here in South Florida and I mean we had a little trickle little tinkle um But I mean it it got hit real bad and like, you know the deep south so I
16:55.86
upinsmoke
Well, um yeah, down by my sister, like the um the water came up to the pier. So like the sand is like even with the with the actual like bridge, which is like not good at all. And they have to like pull a lot of sand out of like the first street and bring it back. For some reason, the tide like completely changed. like All the sand.
17:25.15
upinsmoke
like traveled like up and there's almost just like a cliff now of just like sand like there's no like beach that like travels out it's really wild it makes me because I mean like different beaches could not this one no sometimes she gets like flooding or she gets like bad like wind damage you know like stuff flying in the air like smacking into things
17:38.86
lostinthegroove
But her like her property wasn't damaged or anything like.
17:50.76
lostinthegroove
Does she have a hurricane impact windows?
17:53.82
upinsmoke
She's got, uh, like the, like covers, you know, they're like, I have no idea.
17:57.98
lostinthegroove
Now she's got to get hurricane impact windows.
18:01.13
upinsmoke
they They put things over the windows.
18:04.18
lostinthegroove
Now.
18:04.56
upinsmoke
They let, they like drop down and cover the window.
18:06.31
lostinthegroove
now
18:08.02
upinsmoke
Maybe she does. I don't know. I don't live in her house.
18:09.63
lostinthegroove
I mean, I would hope so because like that's honestly the move. Like that's how a lot of people have been able to save their homes here. I mean, your parents.
18:17.52
upinsmoke
It does not make me want to like live down there. Yeah, my parents trailer does great.
18:20.19
lostinthegroove
Your parent.
18:23.08
upinsmoke
She's my mom.
18:23.12
lostinthegroove
Didn't get hit. Everything was fine.
18:25.57
upinsmoke
Everything's fine. My mom's prayed over that trailer so hard.
18:29.03
lostinthegroove
I mean, does it was anybody else's trailer like hurt or anything during the storm?
18:29.25
upinsmoke
Like
18:33.19
upinsmoke
Other people's trailer got destroyed on the last couple hurricanes, like that.
18:37.79
lostinthegroove
But not this one.
18:38.86
upinsmoke
I don't know. I didn't ask her if anybody's got destroyed this hurricane, but, um, I know that the, the water washed up into the restaurant down there.
18:50.15
upinsmoke
Sharkies. And so the restaurants all flooded. They said it'll be closed for a long time. which is unfortunate. Um, but that restaurant makes a lot of money.
18:58.45
lostinthegroove
Yeah.
19:00.18
upinsmoke
So I think they'll be quite all right. But yeah, I mean, that's like the best thing to do down there is the beach. So my parents will be down there again soon. So we'll see, you know, what they have to say about it, but it is probably pretty crazy to see things in that kind of state.
19:16.08
lostinthegroove
Yeah, i you know what, it's it's a wild thing because you realize that it's not.
19:25.93
lostinthegroove
It's not that nature doesn't care about you. Nature doesn't give a shit about you. It really does it.
19:31.58
upinsmoke
Oh, no.
19:32.76
lostinthegroove
It's like I'm gonna make a tornado and I'm just gonna plow down. I'm gonna make a hurricane that's just gonna wash water. Like, there is no mercy.
19:43.90
upinsmoke
Yeah, nature will set you straight. Yeah, well, it'll like humble you.
19:53.42
upinsmoke
Yeah, you think you're like all powerful.
19:53.61
lostinthegroove
Literally.
19:55.42
upinsmoke
It's like, yeah.
19:56.77
lostinthegroove
No.
19:58.27
upinsmoke
Yeah, I mean, I kind of feel that way about the pandemic. I feel like it was like a act of nature. is that There's a disaster. so
20:08.14
lostinthegroove
Well, look, they I mean, they played around with gain of function research. And everybody knew how dangerous it was. And it gave no success that there was no reason to do it except being just ah crazy scientist that has a crazy idea that you want to explore that is extremely dangerous but the reality is they blew it out of the fucking portion like the whole scenario like they blew up the numbers they covered up a lot of stuff they lied like I I don't have any words I literally have no words because like I'm the type of person like I've said this before like I came out of that with no living father
20:53.83
lostinthegroove
and they covered all that crap up.
20:53.96
upinsmoke
Yeah.
20:56.27
lostinthegroove
they you know It's horrendous.
20:56.91
upinsmoke
It's, yeah, it's evil, complete evil.
21:01.25
lostinthegroove
Yeah.
21:03.47
upinsmoke
I, I think that if, no, there were, I was going to say something.
21:05.42
lostinthegroove
are we taking it Are we taking a dark turn? Yeah.
21:09.83
upinsmoke
I, I was going to mispronounce Camilla's name for fun. Um,
21:16.28
lostinthegroove
That makes me think of Cruella de Vil for some strange reason, and right?
21:19.27
upinsmoke
I like saying, I like saying Camilla. Um,
21:23.91
lostinthegroove
Camilla Deville, Camilla, Camilla.
21:27.25
upinsmoke
And then I'm just gonna say I will never like the president no matter who they are.
21:27.53
lostinthegroove
Oh, I like that. Yeah, that has a good ring.
21:34.24
upinsmoke
um No matter what, I'm never gonna like the president. um I did like Barack Obama, but that's back in my naive days.
21:44.71
lostinthegroove
think about Think about them as like the part-time employee at Denny's. The part-time employee at Denny's is there for four years, sometimes eight.
21:55.02
upinsmoke
Okay.
21:57.86
lostinthegroove
The way to think about it is like this. The system has been around for 260 odd years, right? Something a little less. I don't remember the numbers, but take that into perspective.
22:09.38
upinsmoke
You're like, how much of a dent can it make?
22:09.37
lostinthegroove
it has
22:11.34
upinsmoke
Is that what you're trying to say?
22:11.82
lostinthegroove
right because that system has survived assassinations 48 presidents like the next person that goes in there is just going to make a small dent on a 200 year old system using it can't make a big debt right because you have
22:13.73
upinsmoke
It can, it can.
22:25.83
upinsmoke
Okay. Okay. Sure. But it it may, it can make a big difference. Okay. So here.
22:33.76
lostinthegroove
just like not even trying to get political for a second, but just gonna throw this out there. You have, particularly with Trump's side, you get a person like RFK, who actually has been able to be a person that has done change as a lawyer and has been successful, that could possibly help our food crisis that we have here in the States. That's one. Two, you get a person like Tulsi Gabbard,
23:02.24
lostinthegroove
which has a military background. She understands what suffering is and can offer tremendous potential for the education system, which I'm going to be real honest right now.
23:07.56
upinsmoke
Thank you.
23:14.67
lostinthegroove
Sucks balls.
23:17.13
upinsmoke
Yeah. and Well, I mean, people are killing each other.
23:17.59
lostinthegroove
Sucks balls. It's terrible.
23:22.84
upinsmoke
That's, that's part of the education system.
23:25.06
lostinthegroove
somebody like Tulsi Gabbard coming in and stepping in is just like so that's what I'm saying is like you you want to look at the bigger picture it's like his team gives you two people that could make two possible dents on the 200 year old system they could be able to start they could be able to start that change that we may experience in the next 15 years we don't know but yeah deeper way of thinking about it
23:40.79
upinsmoke
I understand you're passionate.
23:49.31
upinsmoke
So something, something should be done about education. It's a shit show mess.
24:00.40
upinsmoke
What I was saying about Camilla is that I never, I never liked the president.
24:05.54
lostinthegroove
Camilla de Ville. Yeah.
24:10.01
upinsmoke
you know, no matter who they are. I sometimes kind of liked Obama, but he's still the president. So he's like the man. I don't like the man and the man is the government. And so I just, I'm concerned that if I say that I don't like the president, if she wins, if people are just going to just call me racist,
24:38.53
upinsmoke
And it's like, no, I don't like the president. Like, and I feel like that's what I'm, I feel like it shouldn't, but I feel like because I'm a white person and the president, and I feel like if I were a white man, it might be like even more like, you know, but it's like, that's not why I don't like her.
24:45.30
lostinthegroove
I don't I don't know where race is. See, I'm like, why is race even a conversation? Right.
25:03.25
upinsmoke
Like you could have put anyone there, like, but I feel like I can't openly hate the president as much as I usually do.
25:07.95
lostinthegroove
Unless she unless she has a teleprompter, unless she has a teleprompter, she can't properly speak. That's fact.
25:16.92
upinsmoke
I mean, that's how the last, that's how the Democratic president was. He can't talk at all. He just read.
25:22.94
lostinthegroove
Just, you know.
25:25.48
upinsmoke
She's got a thing in her ear. It's no joke. It's there.
25:33.20
lostinthegroove
a
25:35.43
upinsmoke
It's there 24 seven.
25:37.18
lostinthegroove
It has to be.
25:38.41
upinsmoke
She's a little puppet.
25:41.13
lostinthegroove
You know, like, the way I look at it is like this. It's forget about look, I'm libertarian. All right. I'm libertarian hardcore. Okay. I'm a conservative. Well, left wing conservative gay man. All right. And I'm telling you that there's more potential on that team. Like I just mentioned you got RFK and you got Tulsa Gamber. Let's not forget you also got JD Vance.
26:08.90
upinsmoke
It's just not appropriate for anyone to assume that my hate for one candidate means my support for another.
26:19.61
lostinthegroove
I just can't stand the last four years of this country, like, to be honest. And it's like you're getting the same for the next four years. And I personally don't see any benefit or potential.
26:33.65
lostinthegroove
So I'm like, i'm I'm on your team over here.
26:34.10
upinsmoke
Oh.
26:38.07
lostinthegroove
I'm like, I don't hate the president. It's like we didn't like the past four years.
26:44.18
upinsmoke
And it'll be kind of, yeah.
26:44.31
lostinthegroove
We're not going to like them. You're not going to like the next four years either.
26:48.70
upinsmoke
So on a whole other note, there is a ice cream shop, locally owned small business ice cream shop.
26:52.11
lostinthegroove
It has marshmallows.
27:00.89
upinsmoke
Um, and they made a Halloween themed ice cream. Guess what it is.
27:11.39
lostinthegroove
Definitely has has marshmallows.
27:12.39
upinsmoke
and That would be cool, right? This is a caramel apple.
27:15.59
lostinthegroove
What?
27:17.52
upinsmoke
Yeah, caramel apple ice cream.
27:18.81
lostinthegroove
So this caramel. Wait, okay, so are there Apple pieces or caramel pieces?
27:21.17
upinsmoke
Yeah.
27:24.91
upinsmoke
Caramel pieces here. I'm going to send it so you can
27:27.29
lostinthegroove
Okay, so how they exactly do they get the Apple? Now I'm curious, all right.
27:31.23
upinsmoke
Well, I mean, I want to know, but here you just look at their Facebook page real quick so that you can get like a visual. But here, I'll look at the visual too. And then, I mean, what it says is just fall is here.
27:42.52
lostinthegroove
Wow, what a side note.
27:44.94
upinsmoke
um And so are our fall flavors. So there's more than one fall flavor.
27:48.59
lostinthegroove
Oh my god, it's green!
27:50.90
upinsmoke
Yes, it's caramel dappled.
27:50.90
lostinthegroove
It's freaking green!
27:53.57
upinsmoke
This is like this place is called the black cat.
27:53.85
lostinthegroove
Wow!
27:57.45
upinsmoke
um And they're doing Halloween flavors. I don't see oatmeal.
28:02.57
lostinthegroove
They have one here, just from:28:13.59
lostinthegroove
Oh my goodness.
28:14.84
upinsmoke
Oh, they have a butter beer.
28:15.99
lostinthegroove
Spamoni. They have a butterbeer flavor. That's wild. Oh, that's wild. Oh, that looks good. Oh my God.
28:23.46
upinsmoke
Killer Bee.
28:25.67
lostinthegroove
Killer Bee.
28:27.14
upinsmoke
Apple cider donut.
28:30.06
lostinthegroove
I okay, I have a little bit of a grudge with apple cider donuts for simple reason, because a lot of the times apple cider. i yeah I don't know it just I had an apple cider fritter. And that was the best shit I've ever had in my life. I'm not gonna lie like at that. Thinking about it. Oh my god, and it had was warm. And have the sauce on there. And I have whipped cream.
29:00.34
upinsmoke
Pumpkin spice latte.
29:02.22
lostinthegroove
i No, I can't because I I watched that video All right with the lady that turns into a pumpkin This is my my embarrassing moment I watched that video like it was a cartoon of this like lady that she like turned into a pumpkin actually getting a pumpkin um pumpkin latte you can find this on YouTube and It scarred me and I'm like, I can't I can't order watch
29:03.90
upinsmoke
I.
29:16.45
upinsmoke
Why? Because she like. Dude, that would be good for your budget, like.
29:29.07
lostinthegroove
No, no, no, no, no. I just think of like her carving the knife to open up like a hole so she can pour the drink. It was weird.
29:38.51
upinsmoke
like
29:38.71
lostinthegroove
Okay. It was a weird video.
29:39.50
upinsmoke
Oh, no, you saw she carved a hole in herself as a pumpkin.
29:40.21
lostinthegroove
Yes.
29:44.81
lostinthegroove
Yeah. Cause they turned into, yeah. Cause he turned into like a pumpkin.
29:47.40
upinsmoke
So she had no lips, so she like needs to like wow.
29:50.84
lostinthegroove
Yeah. So she like, yeah.
29:53.18
upinsmoke
It reminds me of like, you know, like a drug commercial like.
29:56.48
lostinthegroove
Yeah. Oh my God.
29:58.79
upinsmoke
Yeah, and also it reminds me of like when everybody became a vegetarian there for like ah a a while, there was like a video that was going around.
29:59.52
lostinthegroove
the
30:07.24
lostinthegroove
Peter it was from Peter.
30:09.01
upinsmoke
I don't know, but everybody like hated it.
30:10.11
lostinthegroove
No, it was from Pete. It was it was definitely from Peter. I promise you that You know, I
30:13.43
upinsmoke
People watch this video and everybody became a vegetarian for a minute. It was crazy. Everybody was so bothered by what they saw.
30:21.61
lostinthegroove
my My message to vegans is this, okay? Minus people that have that or have allergens towards mates.
30:32.35
upinsmoke
I didn't watch it. I was like, I'm not going to ruin it.
30:33.39
lostinthegroove
You wanna be a vegan? You wanna be a vegan? Tell you what, if you really love the animals, you really care about them, support your local farmers that also have slaughterhouses. Because those people actually fucking taking care of those cows and care for them. And I promise you, that's the best place you'll be able to get meat. They care for those animals.
30:55.69
upinsmoke
Yeah, locals.
30:57.28
lostinthegroove
Yeah, it's like, look, Cows have evolved to rely on humans. The simple fact is that cows overpopulate. The simple fact is that there are farmers that really take care of their cows, and they do slaughter them, but they make sure that they're slaughtered humanely.
31:16.10
upinsmoke
For the most part, yeah. I would say like, so yeah, they have a ah whole different way of living, but it's like, there's a lot of it out here. um Like I said, we have 4H, which is really cool.
31:29.74
upinsmoke
It's a big, big thing.
31:30.15
lostinthegroove
But. I don't know, I like um I like my meat. You know.
31:38.36
upinsmoke
I can't stop, yeah, ah specifically breakfast um and pepperoni pizza, salamis. Yes, I do. um
31:48.54
lostinthegroove
Yeah, pepperoni pizza, especially when you get pepperoni pizza from the right place.
31:53.22
upinsmoke
I crave savory a lot, and meat fits that category, but often my body wants something savory.
31:53.77
lostinthegroove
Oh.
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upinsmoke
um And I think like I often really want like warm food, um but I don't know. I like a good beef jerky.
32:12.09
lostinthegroove
I saw those sausages ah in Target the other day. You know what I'm talking about? The Bavarian. ah Yeah, the sausage links. And I was just like, I was so tempted.
32:22.90
upinsmoke
susan young
32:26.08
lostinthegroove
And ah but they're so expensive. They're like literally but like six dollars.
32:27.77
upinsmoke
yum everything is everything dude i went to go look at stuff like i was like looking at like coats and sweaters and shit and everything i was like fucking like two to three hundred dollars and i was like oh my god i went to go look for chairs and everything was like three to five hundred dollars i was like no like i will be going to the thrift shop and getting some old dead lady's chair.
32:54.54
lostinthegroove
Yeah, like she probably died in it, but like it doesn't matter.
32:54.58
upinsmoke
like this again And I guess I would get an old lady's coat too, like God.
33:01.86
lostinthegroove
Some of those old lady coats are fucking bitching. Like, I mean, they are. They're like, you know, just the feathers, you know, and just the ambiance.
33:13.01
lostinthegroove
It's just, girl, you.
33:14.33
upinsmoke
If you could buy an old lady's groceries, I'd be stuck with that too.
33:19.43
lostinthegroove
Shit. Ain't that the truth?
33:25.47
lostinthegroove
a So, we got an old lady's coat. I'm happy for you. How was it?
33:31.68
upinsmoke
I'm not getting the old lady's coat.
33:33.19
lostinthegroove
Oh, shit.
33:34.34
upinsmoke
I'm not getting the old lady's chair.
33:34.49
lostinthegroove
but you are are they just saying on to I had the same bed for the past five years.
33:37.22
upinsmoke
I'm not getting any of it.
33:41.26
upinsmoke
I'm just not going to have a chair or a coat.
33:50.10
upinsmoke
Shit, you need a new bed. Get it when you move though.
33:52.97
lostinthegroove
No. Uh-uh.
33:56.18
upinsmoke
Don't cause like,
33:56.20
lostinthegroove
oh No, I like my bed frame like that's the thing is like I love my bed frame. I love my like 13 years Yeah, I think it's like every oh my god, I think it's every 13 years I
34:00.28
upinsmoke
Oh, your frame? That's fine. Your mattress you need to replace over like three years, I think. Yeah. Well, what does the internet say? and What the fuck? How often should you replace your mattress?
34:17.76
upinsmoke
So maybe it's just like you're like, like your bedsheets, you should like legit throw them away.
34:26.69
lostinthegroove
I do. I definitely throw away bet sheets. I 100% throw bet sheets away.
34:41.75
upinsmoke
Okay. Every seven to 10 years, you should throw your mattress away. It's better than 15. Like I was closer every seven to 10 years.
34:52.15
lostinthegroove
I'm gonna like push it to 10 and a half.
34:55.27
upinsmoke
Sure.
34:56.04
lostinthegroove
Yeah, you know, I'm just like that type of person. I'm like, it's like my inner Jew is calling to me and it's like saying, save me your money, save your money, save your money, because I don't have any money, but like, it's just like, save your money, save your money, save your money.
35:03.75
upinsmoke
Save your money. Stretch it out.
35:12.69
lostinthegroove
And, uh, and the money I don't have save your money.
35:12.82
upinsmoke
The money that you don't have, save it.
35:16.26
lostinthegroove
save So I'm
35:18.03
upinsmoke
Yeah, it would just go on ah on a credit card if I if i did it anyways. Well, maybe it's your pillow.
35:23.75
lostinthegroove
very,
35:25.18
upinsmoke
How often are you supposed to throw your pillow away?
35:28.17
lostinthegroove
I like my pillows.
35:29.94
upinsmoke
I know.
35:33.32
upinsmoke
How often?
35:34.84
lostinthegroove
Oh, my God, this is this is like. I I'm not going to lie, I do have a problem of throwing things away, particularly when it comes to certain things that are mine.
35:48.36
lostinthegroove
But.
35:50.13
upinsmoke
You'll never believe it.
35:53.46
lostinthegroove
Two years.
35:54.98
upinsmoke
Every one to two years, in general, you should replace your pillow every one to two years. However, lifespan of a pillow depends on the type of pillow and how well you care for it. Here are some signs that it might be time to replace your pillow.
36:14.10
lostinthegroove
ah Holy shit, here it comes. Buckle up, motherfuckers.
36:18.03
upinsmoke
It's lost its shape.
36:19.97
lostinthegroove
Whoa.
36:20.29
upinsmoke
Pillows can lose their shape over time, especially down. Down alternative or shredded foam pillows.
36:28.42
lostinthegroove
You know what she's talking about?
36:31.62
upinsmoke
It's not fresh. Even after washing, your pillow doesn't seem as fresh as it once was. It's trapping dust. A cloud of dust puffs out when you flip your pillow.
36:51.49
lostinthegroove
Whoa. I gotta rethink my life right now, you know, for a sec. Like, you gotta, like, swallow in the truth and be able to accept it and be like... Damn. Am I really that dirty?
37:07.25
upinsmoke
It says your pillow's causing acne or neck pain. You're waking up with acne or a crick in your neck. I feel like it says that you should wash your pillow in the laundry every three to six months, but every two years it's suggested to get a pillow.
37:31.22
upinsmoke
No, I think I had heard,
37:32.21
lostinthegroove
That's a bit excessive, don't you think?
37:33.97
upinsmoke
i I had heard every three years to replace your pillow because like, there really is quite a lot of sweat that comes out of the human head and neck.
37:47.71
upinsmoke
So I do think that after three years, it's not a horrible idea to look for a new pillow.
37:54.59
lostinthegroove
No, no, it's not. It's not a horror. It just makes you now start to think.
37:58.07
upinsmoke
But one year, every one year is maybe a lot, but I think putting it through the wash, but you take a big, you take a big chance putting your pillow through the wash now.
38:01.61
lostinthegroove
she
38:08.90
upinsmoke
If you replace your pillowcase like consistently, I think you maybe don't have to put your pillow through the wash as much, you know? You know what I mean?
38:19.57
upinsmoke
Like if you really replace that a lot, but like
38:21.13
lostinthegroove
I'm like really thinking about holy shit. Like this is the kind of conversation where you're like, this is gonna like be eating at my brain.
38:31.94
upinsmoke
No, it's okay.
38:32.05
lostinthegroove
e
38:32.90
upinsmoke
It's really silly, but this is like, this really fits the description that I explained about what the podcast is where it's like, it's a thought, but then like we get the chance to like go like really detailed into the thought.
38:45.48
upinsmoke
Like, you know, like what should we do?
38:46.00
lostinthegroove
daily actually found finding out like when you're supposed to be changing this shit, you're like, whoa.
38:52.11
upinsmoke
Well, ah my pillow is a squishmallow. Um, and so I wanted to see how I should wash my squishmallow, but like my squishmallow is insanely special to me.
39:04.75
upinsmoke
So I don't want anything to happen to it. So I'm kind of like afraid to wash it, but I know that I can't just like keep like raw dog in my squishmallow every night and like not cleaning it. Cause it doesn't have a pillowcase on it, you know?
39:17.28
upinsmoke
So like I've got to clean it.
39:19.55
lostinthegroove
Well, i have I have two, I think they're called Birmingham Hotel Pillows.
39:19.67
upinsmoke
I don't know.
39:24.50
upinsmoke
Oh.
39:25.54
lostinthegroove
ah They're $40 a piece.
39:28.16
upinsmoke
ah ha ha $80 under my head.
39:33.45
lostinthegroove
Yeah. Yeah, $80 under my head, baby girl, but I love those.
39:33.75
upinsmoke
Sometimes between my legs.
39:37.63
upinsmoke
My squishmallow was only 16 bucks. Sorry.
39:41.94
lostinthegroove
Don't judge me on my $40 pillows because they are bomb.
39:45.05
upinsmoke
I'm not.
39:45.74
lostinthegroove
No, I know you're not, but I'm just saying like,
39:49.84
lostinthegroove
$40 $40 pillow is just somewhat $16 reef. Are you for real?
39:58.92
upinsmoke
W-what was the... Phoridana?
40:01.16
lostinthegroove
$40 I'd be like Well, I can be like if it was 50 and be like it's 50, you know, I got one 50 I got another 50 and then I got one hundred and
40:01.60
upinsmoke
Phoridana? Mickey Halla? Halla Halla Phoridana?
40:11.44
upinsmoke
Oh no...
40:17.00
upinsmoke
I
40:20.06
lostinthegroove
We want to wrap this up.
40:21.80
upinsmoke
don't know. Is anyone in Hollywood not a pedophile?
40:26.43
lostinthegroove
Besides P.D.D.
40:30.50
upinsmoke
Do you think he really did that stuff?
40:31.70
lostinthegroove
Oh, probably. I mean, it was hilarious when they like you found out that Camilla or Camilla or Camilla, whatever her name is. um
40:41.19
upinsmoke
her Kersturma?
40:43.28
lostinthegroove
She was like, with Diddy. You know, like, did Diddy Diddy do? Did he dumb? Did he do?
40:51.57
upinsmoke
Well, I just, no one has said anything about Diddy for like 10 years and all of a sudden he's like relevant and I'm just,
40:51.71
lostinthegroove
Yeah, she she did he do.
40:58.88
lostinthegroove
Because Diddy is like a sore thumb that sticks out like nobody's business. Like that man does not know when to shut the fuck up. OK, that's his problem.
41:10.98
lostinthegroove
He doesn't know when.
41:11.05
upinsmoke
No one. No one uses baby oil as lubricant. Nobody.
41:22.51
lostinthegroove
Pity doo, pity doo.
41:24.47
upinsmoke
I just I don't know. It's not. I don't know, it was like odd. like a just like Did you see the picture? It's just like all these, like it looks so staged.
41:36.71
upinsmoke
It looks like somebody came in and put like a billion things of baby oil.
41:40.82
lostinthegroove
imagine like Diddy on the phone, be like, make sure those bottles line up the right way.
41:48.48
upinsmoke
I don't know what happened, but were whatever they're telling us isn't the truth.
41:50.61
lostinthegroove
I don't know. It's probably probably isn't, but it's kind of fun. I'm not going to lie. Like these past couple of months have been really fucking fun.
42:03.83
upinsmoke
I don't know. Why don't they blame it?
42:05.05
lostinthegroove
Like fun in a crazy and like, oh my God, insane way fun.
42:09.42
upinsmoke
Well, yeah, I don't know. I thought that aliens had some type of president, but I guess not.
42:20.21
lostinthegroove
Yeah, I don't anymore. They're not as important until they start like attacking us. And then when they they start attacking us, then they start to be important.
42:27.65
upinsmoke
Well, I feel like aliens weren't a good enough distraction. And then they were like, oh, they were like, well, we got a lot of distraction out of Epstein stuff. Like, we should just do that again.
42:39.19
upinsmoke
But then they couldn't and.
42:39.67
lostinthegroove
And then they threw in like the Hunter Biden case. It's kind of like, wow, they just everything, everything and any and everything and anything.
42:49.77
upinsmoke
I also have this idea that like some foreign spy from another country is trying to destroy Hollywood from the inside out because Hollywood is something that America is proud of.
43:01.35
lostinthegroove
Possibly.
43:07.65
upinsmoke
It's like something that we're the best at.
43:10.32
lostinthegroove
Mm-hmm.
43:11.24
upinsmoke
And so like it would be successful to destroy Hollywood if you were trying to destroy America.
43:18.31
lostinthegroove
Indeed, my dear comrade. Chies, chies.
43:21.90
upinsmoke
um Pinky.
43:24.95
lostinthegroove
But...
43:26.44
upinsmoke
It's been a good episode.
43:26.56
lostinthegroove
with that Russian but that russian dis disinformation for you.
43:27.56
upinsmoke
Yeah.
43:31.48
lostinthegroove
If you wanna check out Carissa, you can find her on Instagram at American Groove Pod. If you wanna check us out on Lost in the Groove, you can find us on Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube at Lost in the Groove Pod.
43:48.02
lostinthegroove
So with that, What do we tell these people? What do we tell these people when we're done with them? That we're done, we're finished, we're finito.
43:54.13
upinsmoke
oh
43:57.28
upinsmoke
Go live your lives, come back when you want some more.
44:03.49
lostinthegroove
Praise, play, and eat.
44:07.33
lostinthegroove
Ain't it the truth? All right, motherfuckers, we're out.
44:09.91
upinsmoke
Eat, pray, love.
44:10.01
lostinthegroove
Peace. Eat, pray, love.