Episode 238
#238 - Interview with scientist Laura Alyn
In this soulful, and mind-expanding conversation. Laura Alyn founder of the ILA Institute and host of Grounded Spirits and ILA Radio. Joins me to explore what it means to be human, creative, and whole in a fragmented world.
We dived into intuition, soul-body alignment. Seeing how the false binary between science and spirituality exists. From sound healing, and guided journals to burnout, dreams, and the Arnelian Framework. Laura brings both warmth, and rigor to a conversation. About surviving, and thriving in the age of disconnection.
This episode is about reclaiming your voice, trusting your inner compass. Being able to embrace the truth, that there is no "one way" to heal or grow.
Where to Find the Guest?
🌐 Website: https://theornelian.com/connect/itslauraalyn/
🎧 Work: Grounded Spirits and ILA Radio are available on Spotify and all major platforms.
https://theornelian.com/companies/ilainstitute/ilaradio/
📲 Social: Follow Laura @lauraalyn
And of course, you can find all the links for L.I.T.G, and where to listen at:
Transcript
Laura Alyn
and now I get to to study it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Who doesn't?
::Laura Alyn
Well, no, like everybody would always you to pick one thing. It's just about one thing.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
::Laura Alyn
And I'm like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay, yeah.
::Laura Alyn
yeah. So I was like, no, I need to learn a little about everything. And so now I've created a way. It's like a chart, like the structure to learn about every single subject and how it relates to learning about myself. So now I'm doing like both together.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Ah, so you're basically killing two birds with one stone. I like that.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of doing the same thing, too. Like, I do a podcast, but I'm also training as an automotive technician working for BMW. So, you know, like you said, you know, like people are like, you got to stick with one lane.
::Laura Alyn
Cool.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm like, hell nah. Hell nah, you know, because I can already know from like somebody like yourself is when you kind of limit yourself of being able to try those different things and getting into those different parameters.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You learn less about yourself. I think like you've learned a lot, especially like from podcasting and especially when it comes to like science and things like there's a much deeper underlying of thought that comes in because you can't just be like, hey, I got an idea.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know There's got to be a process there for that idea to develop.
::Laura Alyn
Exactly. And it's cool too about polymaths is that I think that everybody is a polymath.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
So even like what you were talking about, like um a lot of people say like the, the sciences versus the arts. And so like for you, like that would be a polymath, like two different things. So like for you, that would count. Like being a technician is like sciencey and like working with your hands. And then podcasting is like your voice. It's art.
::Laura Alyn
It's bringing new people, talking to people. um so so yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Getting into the jive, man.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's – you know what it is, though? It's the physical aspect of what it is to be human. We are we are animals, but we are curious species. This idea of – I'm a hardcore libertarian like this. This industrial 9 to 5 bullshit has literally watered down society. Like, yeah, we've got a lot of amazing things, but like – We're not designed to work a nine to five and then retire at 63.
::Laura Alyn
Exactly.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Just not. Just not. It's not part of the human. you know, and I'm not the only one that says this. Like you ask any scientist or any person that's within these fields and they'll tell you straight up like this is not.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
This is not the right approach for human Correct me if I'm wrong, is is it human environment or is it human enhancement? Like for allowing our species to constantly be able to better and better communicate with ourselves.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, i would say enhancement. And that's a lot of what my work is about, too. It's like, how do we self-actualize? How do we become like our truest self?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right. Yeah. Okay.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. And then be able to grow from there, not just through one direction, but through multiple directions, right?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, well, because you know how like people say that like you only use 25% of your brain?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay.
::Laura Alyn
And I really didn't believe it. um But the more that I've been looking into it, the 25% is your mind. And then the other 75% is your soul, your spirit, your body.
::Laura Alyn
And like your body has its own like brain. like When your body starts to... like Like you feel like the anxiety coming. It's like you're in like a sketchy situation. Like your body is going to tell you that's not your mind.
::Laura Alyn
like you have like this intuition that's like very deeply connected to your body or like instincts. And I think that instincts are different than intuition.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it it yet Oh, that is so true. wish. Instincts is not necessarily a thing that you developed over time that is a part of your genetic makeup.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It depends on where you come from.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it could depend on the I guess centuries in culture and history that you thrive from. Because, you know, I'm not trying to demean like any type of person, but we are animals, you know, like as much as we like to put ourselves on a pedestal, but we we still are made up of the same makeup as most mammals. You know what I mean?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
its just we're more conscious and aware.
::Laura Alyn
Like people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah
::Laura Alyn
Exactly. Yeah. Like people are like, oh, like go spend time in nature. And I'm like, your body is part of nature. Like get to know your body.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you God, it's so true. yeah I mean, we i found this so true for myself too, right? Because I'm 26 years old and have this wonderful person on the podcast. She wrote a book called Out of Focus. Her name's Ali.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And she was talking about the mental health crisis was going on in this country. And I'm like one of those people where like, I like to hear different perspectives, but I get skeptical sometimes. I'm like, come on, like really?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But then when you see the other side of it, when you start speaking down with like some medical health professionals, you start to actually see the truth. It's where we live in a society where mental health is a pill, a solution,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know, new way of solving a problem, but it's like, hey, hang on a minute, right? You just said this. Okay, so if we're are mammals and we've basically gone from hunters and gatherers and basically developed a civilization, okay, I got that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And then we go from that to where we start creating these communities and start coming together. But then you start adding things to that pile that is non-human, that doesn't actually work with our genetic makeup.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What do you think happens to a dog when you put them alone in a shelter?
::Laura Alyn
Well, I think that like being alienated from like being ostracized or like not being seen, not being loved, not being supported, like that's where things go bad. And then we get stuck in our in our heads.
::Laura Alyn
But it's interesting that you were talking about the different oh parts of like our genetic makeup versus what's human created as we started creating the societies. um So in that chart that I was talking about earlier, the outside all lined up with astrology, astrological signs, but the inside, um it's a in a book that's coming soon.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Ooh.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Is that on your website?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Okay. Okay.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. um But and on the inside, those don't correlate to anything.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Sorry.
::Laura Alyn
So it's literally the way that our mind and our spirits have come together. And so that's where we find power, awareness, energy. So like energy is like economics, like, like You're transferring money is the same as you transferring energy, like energy and money is the same.
::Laura Alyn
um And then the last one's duty. So like what I'm supposed to do versus what people tell me I'm supposed to do versus what I should do according to society.
::Laura Alyn
And like, that's where we get all messed up in our minds. Like if we could figure these things out for ourselves, like be aware of what we want, what we care about, have power within our own self.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We do.
::Laura Alyn
Like what you're talking about with that dog at the shelter, like they are powerless in that situation. So the only way to to gain power is to be your, your most authentic self. And then the thing is with them, with animals where they don't have the power to get out of that shelter power to do anything else.
::Laura Alyn
Um, There's like that. Well, for me, I'm just gonna say it like I think that like they would just like switch timelines like they would just completely shift over to a different space where they wouldn't be in that situation anymore, because I don't think that any living being can be stuck if they don't choose to be stuck.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. And i I think that's so true of where, you know, we see this all over social media. We see those financial gurus. And I've been on one of these podcasts. like I flew out to Austin to talk to them, and I think he's brilliant.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But the problem is, is that to talk to somebody that and explain to them about financial and being able to keep yourself afloat at the same time where people can be dealing with trauma, they can be dealing with a lot of pain, they can be dealing with a lot of different things to tell somebody that you cannot.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
live, you cannot go out, especially when you're on a tight budget, when you cannot be around other people. And because guess what? For me, that is better than an antidepressant.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What happens a lot of the times is you restraint yourself, you tighten yourself in these budgets because of whether your job position, a lot of factors that come in, especially people that are married and you've got kids and you've got to figure out how tighten things around.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But then you forget about you and the entire picture. you become depressed and you become anxious, become miserable. And then who do you think gets affected by that? The people around you you know, and then they got to deal with that burden on top of that. Like, I feel there has to be like, what we've been saying from the from the very beginning, like there has to be that balance of where just like that dog, like to the point where he wants to, you know, he or she or whatever wants to go to the other timeline.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like this one sucks right Oh, oh
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, the cool thing about like being human is that even in those situations, a lot of people have phones, they have access to social media. So like they could start developing their own interests and following accounts that are helping them develop those interests and learn more or go to a public library and look at the books, what interests you.
::Laura Alyn
I first started my podcast in: ::Laura Alyn
Now I have a fancy computer. I have like other other things like um mics and stuff. But I just started with my phone and I would just speak into my phone on my voice almost app and then post it up. Like you don't need money. I think that, I mean, like obviously we do need money. Like don't get me wrong.
::Laura Alyn
But like there's so many ways now to be able to get yourself out of these situations with very low money. um And then a a lot of it is just time. So you're absolutely right. When we do a nine to five, you're exhausted. You don't want to do anything after.
::Laura Alyn
So then all you have is the weekends.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
no
::Laura Alyn
and even on the weekends, like you just want to like sleep. um So that's how I started that doing that. um On Fridays after work, I would do that just to get like through the whole week, like kind of reflect about it. And that's like what I would talk about on the podcast. Grinder Spirits is about ah balancing work and life and then how to self-actualize. And it's specifically for gardeners and dreamers.
::Laura Alyn
So like with gardeners, it's double entendre because it's like gardeners, like actually like outworking with the plants, but it's also like smoking weed. And then dreamers
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It is.
::Laura Alyn
is like sleeping when you have a dream, but it's also like realizing your dreams. Like we were all put here. We all have something in our hearts that we're interested in and that we want to pursue.
::Laura Alyn
But there's all of these what ifs and all these doubts and all of this fear that keeps us from escaping our reality.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
There are. And, you know, i have um I have a good friend of mine because, you know, there was a lot of soul searching in order for me to put myself through 12 months just for three-month manufacturer program with BMW. and I said to him, i said, you know, even if you're dealing with a brand that's German and makes more higher-end vehicles, I said, if somebody comes in here and has, you know, $80,000 SUV,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and she's a mom and she's got two kids. Am I gonna sit there and be like, oh look at this bitch. I gotta work on her car, her and her stupid 80,000. Like, what kind of attitude is that, man? Like, you know what? Maybe her husband, maybe the two of them, or maybe her wife, maybe...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
they They scrounged up money or maybe they have money to be able to afford this. Like, why should I be the one that judges them? Like, I'm here to help her out. Like, I'm here to figure out, like, okay, you got your tire pressure lights coming on. there's a problem with your wheels.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I got you. Let me take care of this so you get your kids in there. You don't have to worry about this shit. That mindset is taking yourself out of stop blaming people for your problems.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Stop blaming politicians for your issues that you're dealing with. Stop blaming lawmakers and police officers and all different kind of people for all the problems that exist around you. Like, guess what? You're responsible for the problems that you make.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You, not anybody else.
::Laura Alyn
Exactly. And it was so cool, too, because when I was going through like my whole spiritual revelation and coming up with all of these ideas, I honestly was like, okay, I'm the only one that thinks this it's like maybe not even true.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Nah.
::Laura Alyn
Then i started, i started reading and people have been talking like this since 17th century.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Nah, you're not.
::Laura Alyn
I'm like, come on, like, we have been in this same cycle for 300 years. Like, you're right, like, we have to stop blaming the outside and start looking within and know that everything is a mirror.
::Laura Alyn
Like, if if you're like, whatever is going on on your outside world, it's because there's something that's in your inside world that you're not paying attention to.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. and something that people tend to really forget is this idea of community. You know, I could tell you for myself where I grew up in a cult community in New York, and i can see the bad side of what happens to communities when you start creating indoctrination, restrictions, rules, regulations to feed the hungry.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But There is the flip side of that too. It's where you can create your own communities, and depending on where you live. And I love those people that like, well, where I live, it sucks.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Then move. Then move. Well, I don't have money. Then figure out a way to be able to move. It's like, well, I don't really want to go out. Okay, maybe go online and see there's maybe some local events that you can try to schedule to.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't want to go to the library.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
There are plenty of bookstores locally that offer like book clubs and events and things like there's an excuse for every problem, but I guarantee like most things I feel most things you can find a solution. It may not be easy, but there is a solution.
::Laura Alyn
Definitely. And it really is just getting out there. Like, there are so many free classes. I started i I'm a hula dancer now. But I started hula, because i went to, a it was like a senior center.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That is amazing.
::Laura Alyn
And I was the only young one, but I loved it. And it was free. And I went every Wednesday. And then from there, I got my skills. And now I'm like in an actual halal. But like there's so many opportunities out there. It's just a matter of getting out there and like looking it up online. Like I wonder what's around me that's free. So it could be museums. It could be classes.
::Laura Alyn
It could be um free events. there's There's so much out there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And, you know, I feel as an artist, one thing that kind of gets lost behind the the wallpaper, as you will, A lot, you know, it's okay to be weird. It's okay to be socially awkward. I feel a lot of things have changed since COVID. Like, you know, I'm going to be one of those that say like the world has changed. It has changed.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, people feel less and less comfortable to go out. I mean, truth be told, like we've been saying, like it's more expensive to go out. It can be harder for people to socialize. Like, don't get me wrong. and You know, I'm like from New York, you know, and like I've lived down here in South Florida and like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
When somebody says, hey, how are you? I'm like, are you trying to rob me? You know, it's it's being able to kind of get out of your comfort zone and be able to But again, I feel like that awareness is important to understand that like we're in a time where it's it is hard for people. You can't like be like, all right, you know let's change It's like, no, we got to look at the deeper underlying of the situation and what's causing this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know like To what you're saying, it's like, I don't know what the solution, I really don't. i'm just you know I'm an artist trying to figure it out, I think, just like you are. We both are trying to figure this out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So...
::Laura Alyn
Well, actually, this is what my dissertation is on. so So it's almost like my job to figure it out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right. Right.
::Laura Alyn
is from Rene Descartes in the: ::Laura Alyn
If there's a reason, then that's what's true. and from there on everybody has been so focused on reason. So this is we were talking about earlier, like with being so focused in the mind and like now the mental health is deteriorating because of it.
::Laura Alyn
And the problem is, is that we completely shut out intuition. So when someone comes up to you, your fear response comes up because you're like, I've seen so many things on the news where if somebody comes up to talk to you, they're going to rob you, they're going to kill you, they're going to do all these different things.
::Laura Alyn
And we really need to tune into that intuition. Like my dog, he barks at everybody that walks by. And I'm like, Billy, you got to calm it down, dude. Like, come on
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
he
::Laura Alyn
And he doesn't. He's just like, everybody's a threat. right You know? No.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. who
::Laura Alyn
And he's like this big husky like um German Shepherd. So people get scared.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
A mix? You got a German and a husky mix?
::Laura Alyn
Oh, no, i just meant like he's like husky, like big. um But he's just a German Shepherd.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But he's a German shepherd.
::Laura Alyn
German Shepherd. Yeah. um But I feel like that's like how we all i how we all are after COVID with social anxiety or social interaction.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Little goofballs.
::Laura Alyn
Like if someone comes up to you, like you're on alert, like you're like, what's going on? um So we really need to tune back into ourselves, into our bodies, into intuition.
::Laura Alyn
And really like suss out like, oh, okay, is this a good person? Is this not a good person? Like, can I like accept this person into my life? Maybe we could be friends, maybe we can network, maybe we could do something else.
::Laura Alyn
But we don't even give ourselves that opportunity, because we're so on alert.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We are, and
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
i think we need to get the elephant out of the room, which is there's there's ah there's a lot of agenda pushing, and and I said this earlier. you know i'm not Look, there's a lot of great medical professionals out there. They're doing a fantastic job.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But to your point, like we're talking about reasoning, OK, this this almost of like fixated idea of just one way of dealing with situations. You have, unfortunately, um talking specifically in the medical field.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
A lot of those professionals are mentally depressed. anxiety ridden, they've become these social media influencers that are so far from being mentally stable, it's not even normal anymore. The fact that they're still openly publicly able to talk that you then have to ask yourself the question of, okay, they're supposed to represent us and be our professionals, right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Supposed to be like, you know, the experts, but they're, they're more fucked up than we are.
::Laura Alyn
Yes. Well, because they have insane hours. Like, I'm like, profession and they're going to have these insane hours where they have to work like 24 hour shifts.
::Laura Alyn
Like that just makes no sense to me.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and then doing social media. yeah and then doing social media and TikToks and all of that.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm like, where the hell do you have time for all of this?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, and like, there there's like so many patients that are coming and like everyone's so overloaded, I've heard. And so it's just like, what is going on? Like, this is supposed to be like the epitome of health. And it's like, the worst, how you said, like, they're the worst off than us. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
but You don't see that. You know, I bring this up because I think it's important. but You know, we look at social media as it has a lot of benefits. But the ugly side of it is you don't see the real story behind these people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You don't see their real life. You just see that quick one minute. You know, I've had people like I've had people tell me, like, why aren't don't you do like I used to do podcast shorts.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
and like why don't you do podcast shorts anymore? Because I said, it doesn't show truly what this podcast is. If somebody really wants to experience your work, like your book or your podcast, go watch or listen to the freaking episode.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, I'm not asking you to sit for the hour and a half But it's a way of your mind being able to understand of who these people are. Like, what are they talking about? Like, oh, okay. I never like trying to be able to get into the deeper underlying of that. You don't get that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't feel with a minute clip or a short TikTok or a short Instagram reel or something like that. It's just, it's not how our minds work.
::Laura Alyn
I agree. I think that's what I love about podcasting is that we actually get to like slow down and really be able to like get to know these people, whereas everything else in the world is like so fast, like go faster, go faster, go faster.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
::Laura Alyn
And like this time in my life, it has just been about resting and slowing down and seeing things for what they really are. And you can't do that if you're like constantly on the next to the next, the next, the next.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. And I mean, you know, you can be like, even in your case, you can be an expert in a lot of different fields. And I think this is why we've lost a lot of trust in experts over the years, especially since the pandemic.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
is you've lied to us, you've showed us that there are things that are completely being closed because they're open ideas of thinking. Like, for example, you say the word holistic thinking.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh, you're one of those, you know, you're anti-vaxx, you're anti this. you I'm like, what is the problem of being able to get out of your own mind and think like, huh, you know, maybe yoga or like you're saying, like hula hooping or maybe doing dancing or, you know, maybe going out for a stroll or walk.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
These are things that actually are beneficial to you as a person, you know, like. Why is this such a bad thing? you know, I just i I have such a hard time understanding that.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, it's just, like going back to what was saying with Renee Descartes, that like, people are just so afraid of anything other than reason, because reason is the only thing that they can like see or like touch or like understand.
::Laura Alyn
Whereas intuition, it is woo woo. Like, you hear a voice in your head telling you to do stuff like that sounds crazy, know? And so it's like figuring out like what is real and what is not but the only way to do that is by listening to yourself because I think the other people are trying to like get other people to give them the answers but it's like nah bro you have to figure out the answer for yourself because only it's only going to apply to you.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yourself. exactly Yeah. And, you know, this ideology of where, you know, one thing fits for them all. As somebody that works with cars, um you keep that ideology. I'm telling you right now, you're going to fail very miserably in this industry.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know you You cannot like sit in front of a BMW like, oh, this is like a Toyota. All right, when you're done destroying a $48,000 vehicle, come back to me. you know like
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You're right. you know People are like, well, I try this holistic healing and it doesn't work. Best one, by the way, is supplements because I started i start supplementing a couple of years ago. And I'm like, oh, yeah okay.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I actually have an RN. I don't go to a doctor. I have an RN that I go to. She's very open. We've had her for years. And I ask her very serious questions. I have another friend of mine that's a medical professional. I do that too. I try to get the two...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And then based off of that information, I kind of figure out what works best for me. You know, it might not be beetroot extract plus 2.0, but it's not how it works for people.
::Laura Alyn
you
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Every single person, you're going to figure out what works for you. And you know what? As a cannabis poker, I've realized this too. People are like, oh weed's bad. I'm like... And I've had times where if I've been on this podcast, I'm high to the brim.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I've had guests like get off the podcast and they're like, were you smoking? And like, yeah. Like, were you? I'm like, yeah. Every single person's different. You know, you figure out on the stuff that works for you and the stuff that doesn't work for you.
::Laura Alyn
he Exactly.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You can't find that out until you try it.
::Laura Alyn
Like, yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
And especially with cannabis, like people just like she she has such a bad rap, like Mary Jane. And i i think it's because people use like abuse it and they do it to like disassociate or to numb out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
::Laura Alyn
But if like I have been I've been smoking since I was 18. And every time like I go deeper and deeper into myself, like sure, I've had like, like freaky experiences with it too. But like, for the most part, like, that's how I was able to create everything that I have.
::Laura Alyn
Because she allowed me to like, slow down my mind, really understand who I am, and then be able to like, bring it out. And yeah, like, I love it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, um it was crazy because I was talking with somebody the other day when I was in class. And um I live in Florida, and I'm one of those people. Like, I'm very sick of this state.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But when I found out that Texas is planning on banning hemp, I said to myself, I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. All right?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's: ::Laura Alyn
And that we've used for like thousands of years.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
thousands of years i'm like what the hell is wrong with you you know and ah you know and i hate to say this but like any place okay now again i try to keep myself very like local and very social any place that starts throwing rules weird psychedelics are bad cannabis is bad this is bad that is I'm out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm out. I'm out. I don't want any part of this. like i
::Laura Alyn
who
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know why? Because I know immediately that is closed-minded thinking. And I hate, I mean that, I hate closed-minded thinking because that leads to shallowness, that leads to aggressiveness, that leads to violence, and that leads to extreme corruption, which, hello, America, baby.
::Laura Alyn
yep
::Laura Alyn
exactly yeah
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Isn't that crazy with that law in Texas?
::Laura Alyn
Well, Texas has been doing some crazy stuff, so.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm like.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I was thinking of moving there because I was like relocating with with BMW. And I'm like, I think I'm more like more keen to moving to places like Colorado at this point than anywhere else, because I just feel like.
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
what What do you what honestly like what are you supposed to do as as an American? Are you supposed to spend your life being restricted or like we were just saying from the beginning like we're we don't know how much we get after this. OK, we're alive right now.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't know I'm going alive tomorrow. I don't know I'm alive in 10 years.
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm. We have to live every day to the fullest, yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What do you want to do?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So do you want to live that in a place where they think a thing that, like a hemp product that makes something like this should be banned? So I shouldn't, I should walk around naked. Cause we shouldn't use that product.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like let's bound ban cotton while we're at it. Cotton's bad. You know, we had people picking them, we had slaves picking them hundreds. Let's ban to cotton. You know, while we're at it, you let's keep banning shit.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Let's ban Coca-Cola. Let's ban water. That water's bad. It's got fluoride in there. Let's ban water.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, like I feel like if you look hard enough, there's so bad in absolutely everything, but there's also good in everything.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. You know, i had this um I had this conversation with somebody um the other day um like regarding psychedelics because I'm like one of those, like I do cannabis and I love psychedelics as well.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And he was telling me, he's like, yeah, I've done shrooms. And it's like, it hasn't been great. So I immediately said him, well, you probably haven't done in a great environment. He's like, no, it just doesn't work for me.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I said, more than likely, you didn't do it in the right environment. And he's like, well, you know, like not everybody's into that. and I'm like, I understand that you're not listening to what I'm saying.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
When you don't do certain things in the right environment, you you tend to not have a great experience. And it's not because like trying to force anything on anybody. It's because we're so used to idea of pop a pill, you'll feel better in an hour.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right? Pop an anvil.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You'll be great. You'll feel great in 30 minutes. It's not how cannabis and psychedelics work. At all.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. The way that you're, at the now that you're saying it, like, it's kind of what I was talking about earlier, like with the soul, mind, body, and spirit, that the uphill just disconnects you from your body.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
It's like, oh, you feel pain, I'm going to cut off the pain receptor so you can't feel the pain, but your body's still in pain.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Blockers.
::Laura Alyn
um Whereas like psychedelics, like it takes you on a whole other other journey.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Mm-hmm.
::Laura Alyn
um i i say I've a couple of times, and every time it's like you see like new worlds and you experience new things in your body and you feel so light and airy, and I really feel like it it does like go deep into your body, but it also into your spirit, into your soul to like awaken things that were sleeping before.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We are very much made out of chemicals. We are mostly made out of water, but it's people that don't understand that our minds work off of chemical interactions. We have an endocannabidiol system baked into our brains.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We have, I've seen this, it's really cool. um They have scans where you could see um psilocybin entering in the brain. It's in the back of the brain, one of the receptors. so And you could literally see in how like it connects, and then all of a sudden it shoots straight down through the spine.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You ever notice when you do shre shrooms like 30 or 40 minutes in, you feel like your back is kind of light? It's almost like pillowy? Yeah, it's because it's shooting through from there.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So what you realize is that, like again, I'm not against pharmaceutical drugs. I think there's a lot of amazing medications that can help a lot of different things. But...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And we're talking about alternative medicine. We have to remember something. Thousands of years ago, people used to take these things. For thousands of years, people have been doing psychedelics, cannabis, plant healing, all...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I mean, it goes back 30, 40, 50, even 100,000 years. I mean, there's museums that they have. Archaeologists have been able to even find bodies where they can break down exactly what they've even had in their own stomachs before they died because of how well preserved these bodies are.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So we got to ask the question, if we are made out of made out of water and our bodies and brains are made out of chemical structure, Why are we restricting something that actually physically interacts with our brain?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Because we've evolved along evolved along with it.
::Laura Alyn
Exactly. there's
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, what's going on over here?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
crazy.
::Laura Alyn
I think it really does go back to like manipulation. Like if people are too, too in touch with themselves, then they're not going to listen to what the authorities say. They're going to listen to what their own selves say.
::Laura Alyn
But I think that that's like where, and that is true. But I think that when it comes to like a collective and a society that like by you being your best self, you are helping everybody else.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you
::Laura Alyn
You are like You can't pour from an empty cup. So like if you have your cups overflowing, then everybody else benefits from it. And it's just about like trusting each other that we can actually all help each other.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, we can 100 percent. And I think, you know, so i but this is not for everybody. You know, not everybody should be smoking weed and not everybody should be doing in psychedelics.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, it's to each their own. For some people, this really works. And for other people, it doesn't. But you're right. It really does allow people such as ourselves to have almost a deeper understanding of the world around us.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It doesn't make us more special than anyone. It's that we've had these experiences, and especially in your own work, you've been able to have now ah deeper underlying understanding of how these things correlate, how these things work.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And you're able to give that information over to people, which I think... It's a rare skill. It's not easy. But I think it's very important because if we keep on allowing ourselves like, oh you know, yeah, whatever they said, like, I'm going to go along with that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Good luck.
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Wish you the best.
::Laura Alyn
Good luck. Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
o
::Laura Alyn
yeah
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It's just not a way, it i personally, I don't feel it's a way of living. I really feel that if we continue the way that we're continuing, we are probably going to enter into a very Orwellian world.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ink we want that. i I've read: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
boom
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, definitely, definitely not. But i think that that's like where we do have to remain hopeful that like people will want to do this inner healing work that people do want better for themselves that like we're done feeling stuck or done settling and like wanting to move forward.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, I think also I was talking about this the other day. i was thinking, like, you you take people that have passed that were, quote unquote, like major celebrities, you know, people like Freddie Mercury and David Bowie and Prince.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But they really weren't just celebrities. They were these really powerful people in the artist sector. They represented ways of, you know, like for example, Prince is a great example of this, of like being a very straight feminine man, being very proud of that. You know, you have people like David Bowie that was just, I'm going through something, you know?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Every decade he was going through something else. I love that shit. Cause like, you know, you got like almost like 50 decades worth of that crap. And to me, that's something that's really powerful as to what can we learn from that and be able to build on now?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, we can get into that mindset of like, oh, well, they're gone. all shit. We're in a new place. Like, i well, there's nothing. How can we build on from that and continue from there? Like you said, we can have a better future. We just have to be able to make it
::Laura Alyn
I think it's like about believing that you can make it. So I think that anybody who who wants to be famous, it's that they you have to keep on believing and believing. Like I could not believe that Lady Gaga, like when she was like on her way to becoming famous,
::Laura Alyn
They did a Facebook group that said, like, Stephanie will never be famous. And there was, like, thousands of people that, like, liked that Facebook group. And I'm like, I would die, like, if someone created that.
::Laura Alyn
And, like, if I'm trying to do this. And, like, so she had to, like, believe in herself so, like, full-heartedly to be able to get to where she is at now. And so like talking about these people like Freddie Mercury or Prince, like they kind of give us permission to explore our own selves.
::Laura Alyn
And like David Bowie, like changing ourselves every few few ah years till to really learn about ourselves.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah It's literally every few years. It's literally every few years. It's crazy. And you're so right. It's getting out of your comfort zone. You know, you don't have to fit the norm.
::Laura Alyn
Mm
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, you know, I'm in a school full of guys, full of straight guys. And some of them I'm like, you know, I like to it's it's a little like little tease. I'll be like, you are so queer.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And they're like, I'm not gay. I'm like, you don't have to be. I'm like, I think it's amazing you get to be like feminine and like love clothes, you know, and be able to like be a little bit more like with the um a little bit more girly. All right. You know, like kind of be able to get out there a little bit more.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I think that's a true way of like being able to own yourself. It doesn't matter who you sleep with. It doesn't matter of like. your personal interests. What matters is who you represent.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Be you. you know? It's like, so what?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, so what?
::Laura Alyn
And we've, And that the fact that we both have, like everybody has both masculine and feminine energy. And so like that really blew my mind when I learned about like the actual energy, but then also like your right brain versus your left brain. Like we have these two things and you need both because like masculine is about structure.
::Laura Alyn
feminine Femininity is about flow. So like you need your structure so you know where you're going. But if you don't have that flow and you try to control everything, then that's where the corruption comes in. That's like when the power like mongering or fear mongering comes in.
::Laura Alyn
Because you're too structured. Like you need you need to chill out and flow, like smoke a little, you'll be okay.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, and especially like, especially you get those gals that are in the automotive industry and some of them are one of like, they literally are are freaking badass. Like, I don't want to mess with any of these women. Like, they're the type that like, oh yeah, I'll change all your brakes.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, I'll take off your entire wheels by myself. I'm like, all right, I'm backing away. Like, I'm going to let you do this thing. Like, I'm i'm getting out of here. Um... You know, in this idea of like, well, you know, ah woman's not I've heard this before, especially from like a lot of automotive technicians like, well, women women are not strong enough to be able to work on cars.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I think in a lot of different industries, there's places for both men and women. OK, like it this idea of like, oh, it has to do with the sexes.
::Laura Alyn
Definitely.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like, no, it doesn't. Does not have to do with your biological makeup. Like there are plenty of things that men and women both can equally do. If a woman wants to be a contractor, she can be a contractor.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
She wants to work on cars. She can work on cars. You know, like we said, like getting out of that box, you know, if that's what you want to do, you're like, well, that's not what a what woman should do. Like.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
If that's what you want to do, then do it. Like, be you. Trust me, any partner or any person running into we're goingnna is going to love you even more because of that.
::Laura Alyn
Exactly. Yeah. Like when you're your authentic self, like the right people will come and if they don't support you, then they're not the right people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Why would you want to surround yourself by people that make you constantly feel like you can't be yourself?
::Laura Alyn
hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know how many times you run into that? Like, I've seen that happen. Like, oh, shoot. Like, they're coming. Okay, maybe I need to get changed. You know? Or like, can I come a little bit later?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
oh shoot. Are they going to leave early?
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I'm like, okay, why are If you're already thinking that way, if your mind is already going there, should you really be friends with these people? Should you really be hanging out with them? Just saying.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What do you think?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, I think that whoever you hang out with, they end up kind of morphing into you. You pick up on their habits, they pick up on your habits. And so you should only want to hang out with people who have something that you admire, also that you see them growing. I think that if any relationship, friendship, marriage, whatever, you guys aren't helping each other grow, why are there? Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I think also um I was talking with um i just like personally for me, I was talking with I have a lesbian couple of mine that live in Brooklyn. They're wonderful people. And I was telling them on how when you run into um and I ran into somebody like this that would was around the New York around my age in their twenty s and the 80s.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I remember when I was sitting across from him, he literally had tears in his eyes. And he was telling me on how, like, honey, I remember going to funeral after funeral of people that were just like you.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And now I'm in my 50s and I barely can even find people that are like you anymore. And that really hurt because, you know, you say...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Wow, here you have somebody that like, by myself, like I'm very much the type, like I like being able to build real connections, real relationships with people, really being able to be like, not only just a part of a community, but also like, be able to find people that like my own interests and kind of build from there, like, minus all the hookup culture, you know, and like, one night stands and all that garbage.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And to see of how much of that has been withered away, you know, and You want to be able to have a realistic aspect on those things, but you say to yourself, like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
why why are we going backwards? Why aren't we going forwards? Isn't the whole idea of the future, isn't that in the name? Future, right? It's not supposed to be past future. It's supposed to be future.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, I think that people would rather like stay in their comfort zone. And like, even if it sucks, at least they know that it sucks, instead of like jumping off the deep end and being like, Oh, like, what if I drown?
::Laura Alyn
Or what if like, there's so many what ifs, when a when you like go into your, your dream world.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
but oh
::Laura Alyn
um But I think it has to be worth it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So many.
::Laura Alyn
Because why would you want to if your life sucks? Why would you want to stay there?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
A hundred percent. and I wonder. i wonder to myself sometimes where. You think that you're the only person. That thinks the way that you do, you know, does does the work on your podcast, writes the same, you know, the books that you're.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But I'm sure there are people that you have met or people that you've run into that share those same interests that say, hey, oh my God, that's really cool. Like, I can't believe that this this actually exists. Like somebody's actually doing this.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, to think that, oh, well, I'm not gonna do it because somebody else is gonna work on it. Why don't you do it? If you got that passion, you got that interest, you should be the one that pursues out to do that. Like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Even though in his case, yeah, like most of those people died from AIDS and AIDS complications. That doesn't mean that there isn't plenty of people within the community that don't feel that way, that want to have that type of life. You just have to be able to search. It's a little harder. You have to be able to search and find those connections and things.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Because like since we've been talking from the very beginning, one-way thinking doesn't lead to a very successful and happy life. It just doesn't.
::Laura Alyn
Absolutely. Yeah, you have to be yourself. And then when you put yourself out there, if it is like, in this, like, taboo or like misunderstood way, then that means that's the darkness. And if you're the light, then all of the other lights will come and find you, you know, you have to be like that beacon.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You have to. i found also... As a Jewish person, i found um for my subconscious... I like to... He's a he's a little shit. He's a little general. He's maybe let by me like five foot five And i call him Mein Uppengruppenführer because he really is that kind of little piece of shit.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And I've gotten to the point where when he starts opening up his big mouth, I'm like, shut up. Just shut up. I'm not interested right now in reliving this trauma right now. Like, go away.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um That is something that sounds, you know, but it's true, though. We have those voices and stuff in our head in the subconscious that throw the trauma, bro throw the vivid memories, throw the crap out of us constantly.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Just remember, he's a little piece of shit. That's like four feet five that you can just. You know, flick, you know, it's am I right, though?
::Laura Alyn
Absolutely. yeah um So with that chart that I was talking about earlier, like found that
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
In your new right? Okay.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, it's called the Arnelian Framework.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
okay
::Laura Alyn
And so what I did is I looked at the soul, mind, body and spirit. and I tried to separate it just to like look at what the soul is, what the spirit is. Turns out you can't. it It's like they're connected. Everything's connected. So that's like how this like chart came about. But to your point about it's that's the mind. So it's like the ego.
::Laura Alyn
The ego is trying to like tell you everything you did wrong so that you can get better and in in its mind. Like it's telling you, you did this, this and this wrong. So next time you could do it right. But all it's really doing is just spiraling you and making you feel like shit.
::Laura Alyn
So by getting rid of that, you're like reprogramming yourself. And so you can look at like limiting beliefs. This is what I believe. Let me get rid of that. Like flick it the way you're saying it, flick it away. And then now you can bring in new set of beliefs where can like take you to the next level.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And you get scared sometimes, like I do, especially when you get into the conversation of spirituality because people like, what's this heebie-jeebie? You know, like this voodoo shit over here. And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
theres There's some type of spiritual aspect to consciousness that we don't understand, where there's some type of almost mechanism. I think you can explain this a lot better than I'm doing, of how our brains physically and spiritually are interacting with these waves. and you know, it's weird. It's took me a long time to understand this. You know when you get those gut feelings and you're like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I should have listened to my gut feeling. Turns out like majority of the time when I do listen to my gut feeling, i actually get myself out of really bad situations, you know, but you don't want to listen to that.
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You're like, uh, no, no, no. I want to do this. Like, but your heart is telling you no, it's telling you no. And sometimes you got to listen. You got to listen to that feeling.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, I think that's like the number one thing is is to listen. um And the way that like, I've seen it, and like an analogy is that like the mind is what's who's like taking the wheel, but like he's been driving for like, 100 hours where he's like dying, he's like falling asleep at the wheel.
::Laura Alyn
And so like the soul or the or the intuition or the heart is like, let me let me take over like you need some sleep. And then mind's like, No, I got this. It's like falling asleep. Like you can't You can't be driving the the truck anymore.
::Laura Alyn
um and so, yeah, it's really about letting these other parts of you have a say in your decisions. And even if it goes against what other people say or like what society says or what your parents say like you really, really have to do you.
::Laura Alyn
um And so, yeah, so like the bottom part of like the so the soul, the body of the soul is the heart. The body of the mind is the head.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Thank you.
::Laura Alyn
So like you're thinking your rationality. um And then the body of the spirit is intuition and the body of the body is your instincts. So like it's all like it all makes sense like as far as like how your own like body is is related. And so when they're all in alignment, then that's how you know that it's the right decision.
::Laura Alyn
If one's saying no or one's like stopping, you have to like go back and understand why why does this part of myself want this other side like is it because it's what it actually wants or is it because this it's doing what it thinks religions telling it or schools telling it or whatever you know like you really have to like have these like conversations with your different parts of your body to like understand why are we doing the same things over and over again like we have to move forward
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And you're so right. And I think a lot of it comes back to survival instincts. You know, we still very much have those things baked within our own chemical makeup. I mean, fight or flight is a very common thing, you know, extreme violence.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, there are people that, for example, they go ahead and they murder somebody. And like, how could... People can get to that point. There are ways of people getting to such an extreme place in their mind where they're able to do things like that and regret it tremendously afterwards. you know Maybe, i don't know, but I feel like maybe there is a way of being able to balance out those survival instincts, like you said. you know When one thing is out of check,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Your body knows. But maybe you also have a deeper underlying understanding. is like Maybe the reason why I feel terrified of this person is because back in the day... Love this term.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Back in the day, we used to be like territorial towards mates. you know a lot of you know You got people that are all tagging against this one person. You got to like fight to the death to to win the soul over.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That isn't our brains. You know?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, definitely. It's kind of like in the show Yellowstone where he, I don't know the character's name. It's my husband's one that watches it. But anyway, this guy's like killing this girl. And then he's like, I didn't even know like what I was doing. It's like if I was like watching from above, like my body killing her.
::Laura Alyn
And like he was like completely disassociated from it. And I really think that that's kind of how it happens. Like your your soul or your spirit is is obviously trapped in your body but like can disassociate in these like times of violence where if...
::Laura Alyn
like I would say even like in like the Holocaust, like the German soldiers did a bunch of horrible things but I don't even think that it was like their own selves. I think it was like their bodies following orders like if they were ants.
::Laura Alyn
like There was no soul thinking going on.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, they there was orders and meth, straight up meth like these people, people don't understand, like it's something, you know, especially learning about that period.
::Laura Alyn
It was just orders.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
These people were so disconnected from their minds that no wonder they were able to do such terrible atrocities for five years. You know, I ran into somebody. um A while ago, a tattoo artist, and we were talking about this, and she remembers she had a conversation with her grandfather, which was – he was German, and he was um he was a soldier during the war.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And she remembers growing up that he used to say, I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember. And – You know, we are human and we make mistakes, but the reality is is that we are very easily manipulated.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like we were saying earlier, like our bodies are designed to survive off of chemicals. You put something in there, it starts changing around your chemical makeup. I'm telling you right now, people are going to change.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Not always for the better.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Not always.
::Laura Alyn
But recently i did this sound bath and I could literally feel like my chemicals like rearranging. Like it was like some crazy stuff. Like, i don't know if you've ever um heard of like semantics, but like they put a plate of just like sand and then they put like a violin string on it. And then the sand like rearranges into these like geometric figures.
::Laura Alyn
It's really trippy. But in this sound bath, she's just doing like the bowls and I could like my whole body like after walking out of there, I was like, Oh my gosh, like I'm a new person. Like I could really feel like everything shifting in me. And I'm like, wow, like sound healing is a real thing. Like I didn't really believe it before.
::Laura Alyn
But I think that's how anything is like you don't believe it until you feel it for yourself. Once you feel it, then that's how you know that it's true. Like you could tell me all day that like sound healing is going to change my life. But unless I actually feel it, it's not gonna like i'm not gonna care.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No. And i mean, for me, I experienced that through masculine, which was kind of eye opening. I can't see music the same way I used to. It's very weird when I hear music.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
If I can't, i it's hard. to I think you can understand this. It's hard for me to explain this. Like when I hear a song and the it's just that connection is off, like I can't.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
In short, I feel music now instead of just hearing it. If I can't feel it, I have to change. I can't listen to it. And what happens a lot of the times is music could be playing and then my brain just goes. And that person's like, ooh, do you like the tune? I'm like, what tune?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I can hear the music playing, but my brain is just cut off completely. I can't listen to it. Weird, right?
::Laura Alyn
Interesting.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Weird.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. That's really cool, though, um because this happened to my husband yeah like yesterday that I was like, you're not going to change And he was like, what? Like something's playing. I'm like like, he's like, I could hear the song, but it didn't like it just background noise. It doesn't matter what it is.
::Laura Alyn
So that's really cool. I think that that's. It must be that you're like so in tune in the present moment where like nothing can like really like move you.
::Laura Alyn
Like you're just like here. Is that how you feel?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. And it's not just, um I don't think it's you know what, it's not just psychedelics, like there's other ways of doing this as well.
::Laura Alyn
How cool.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
But we as humans don't always see that where the art and the craft of making sound is a lot more profound and powerful than we think it is. Like you said, like being able to see the sounds moving in geometric patterns.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Sound is physical. We just can't see it. You know the same way that we have radio waves right now that's flying back and forth? It's happening. We just can't physically see it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know what i mean?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, like and's it's so trippy.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Like the same way like walking out. Ooh.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, like how did they even like create like Bluetooth or Wi-Fi? Like these are like unseen things. Like how do you like have these kind of connections? um But I think that's like a good way of like relating it to like the whole like spiritual stuff when people are like, oh, well, it's not real because I can't see it.
::Laura Alyn
But you can feel the effects of it just like you can't see wind, but you can feel the effects of it. and
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
The idea of where our – I'm trying to remember this, where there's like something where our brain can't tell where our eyes are or something. Otherwise, it would attack it and destroy them. I'm trying to remember like something with our nerves or something.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um
::Laura Alyn
Interesting.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Our eyes are basically an optical illusion. Okay, that's pretty much what eyes are. All it is is that you're taking in light and then there's a processing that's going on there so you're able to kind of get a visual of what's going on.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
The reason I say this is because you have a lot of people that are blind, right? And they sometimes are more visually aware than people that can see. You might ask yourself, like how is that possible?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They can't see. It's because what we can see with our naked eyes is only what we can see with our naked eyes. The reality is there's a lot more things going on than what we can physically see, like radio waves.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Energy is a great example. Can you see energy? You can't see energy, but guess what?
::Laura Alyn
Nope.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We're mostly made up of energy.
::Laura Alyn
And you can feel it like when you hug somebody and you feel like that, that warmness, like that's the energy, you know, but you can't see it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You can. Yes. That's energy.
::Laura Alyn
hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You can't see it, but does it make it not real? No. It's 100% real. It's the very, very fabric and makeup of what makes this our own reality.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, I, I, I agree with you. I think that point of like, well, if you can't see, it's not real. I'm like,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that idea of like you not being able to see something. You don't have to always be able to see it, at see something in order for it to be real.
::Laura Alyn
who But I think like at admitting that to yourself like then opens the door for like a host of like scary things. And I think that's where people like have trouble accepting that.
::Laura Alyn
So they'd rather just ignore everything than to deal with, well, if this is true, then these scary things have to be true too. um But that's like where it really goes back to understanding like that everything's a mirror so like if you, if the scary thing does come up, or like a bad thing does come up it's because there's something inside of you that needs to come out and to be dealt with to be understood.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. And I think that, you know, there's reality and then there's myth, you know, and then there's self-fabrication, you know. Just because we have an understanding of different dimensions, we have an understanding of where energy infinite, it cannot be broken or destroyed or changed, it doesn't mean that the boogeyman is real, right? It doesn't mean that the devil is the gatekeeper and the king of hell.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What it means is that there is a deeper underlying as to what is consciousness, what is life. You know, look, there are plenty of religious people that want to believe in God and heaven and hell. And I I commend them. You know, it's it's a great ideology way of thinking for me personally.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um i don't know. I can't get myself wrapped up on that idea of like, so there's one creator that made all of this. Really? I'm like more of the idea of like we're I think what made all of this is actually consciousness.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And in essence, consciousness is us.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that. um But with God, but i kind of feel like God is part of that consciousness.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
So like you could call consciousness God, the universe, the source, spirit, um infinite intelligence.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
But I would also go as far to say that every single religion, like even like Hinduism, where there's like multiple religions, they're all just a part of this consciousness, this greater God. And every everybody every religion has truth in it.
::Laura Alyn
It's just a matter of like the perspective that you see it. And even like with like the boogeyman or the devil or whoever, it's just this kind of energy that you are identifying within yourself, that you're calling it that because you don't want to deal with it.
::Laura Alyn
And so everything just comes back to the self.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You label it.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, you just you label it and it it it keeps you in that idea of constantly being afraid and constantly being terrified instead of understanding that this world.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
who
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yes, is very complex. But I think something that we don't realize on a lot of the times is if you just go with the flow. and you kind of trust the universe a little bit, you'd be very surprised what the universe does. Like, I've had relationships I've had for years where I'm like, you know what?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Something's off. Guess what? I was right. And I'm not friends with them anymore. You know, or vice versa. Like, I run into this person, I'm like, hmm. But then I feel, you know, the the universe is kind of pushing me this direction. Turns out, like, they're some of the best people that I've had in my life, period.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
See what I'm saying? It's...
::Laura Alyn
Mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
One, it's maybe the idea is maybe like an entity within multitude of entities. So it's like it's a singularity that's made up of multiple singularities.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I know this sounds confusing.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, no, no, that's exactly what it is.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
hmm.
::Laura Alyn
So that's literally what your soul is. Your soul is a tiny little piece of that consciousness. So like every single person and an animal and and plant, every single thing has this part of the divine.
::Laura Alyn
And all together we create the actual divine, like God. So like when people pray to God, the prayer gets answered through somebody else feeling their intuition to go to this.
::Laura Alyn
Like there's a story that I read that this lady was praying and that somebody would come to like see her. Like she was like an older lady and give her flowers. And then that somebody else like was driving down the street and they're like, oh, like I should pick up these flowers.
::Laura Alyn
Oh, like I should go check on my neighbor. And like the lady starts crying. Like I was just praying for this. And then you did this without even knowing it. And so like you could call that God, like Jesus answered answered my prayers. Or it could just be that you were sending a signal like Wi-Fi and someone around you picked it up and now they're here. And it could be the same thing.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, I think that that sometimes gets really lost as to where what. I think what we humans, human beings do a lot of the times we mimic the things that created us the way that we're talking about, like broadband and technology and things like even AGI as a great example.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We're literally mimicking what consciousness and this universe or universes are. We're just doing it from a human human level.
::Laura Alyn
Even, exactly, even like with AI, like AI is just, I would call it like kind of like intuition where it's just kind of connecting all the dots and serving it up to you.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That's pretty much...
::Laura Alyn
oh And yeah, so I love AI.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I think it's amazing. I think this whole fear behind it, you know, um I love sci-fi and I love like Gene Rottenberry's ideology as to what this future can uphold.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, his analogy, like, yeah, like back in the 60s. But the truth is he had a very smart vision as to where, yes, we are exploring space, but we do it from a very interesting perspective where there's no smartphones.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Their technology that exists in their world is very much adaptive. It's intuitive. It's like, hey, computer, change mood of lighting. Hey, computer, change holodeck.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Everybody is communicating. Everybody's walking around. Everybody's collaborating. Everybody's still sitting down and talking with one another. You still are very much a part of a machine like a starship. But there's still that human interaction that needs to take care of this machine.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
What I think people don't understand is AI will become a part of our own lives, whereas instead of it taking over our lives, it'll be a part of our lives.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So that instead of us being fed all this media garbage and agenda and all this bullshit, you're able to use something that can allow you to do multiple jobs that used to take 20 people to do.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
It'll allow you to be able to think up of things that are either harder for other people to think of, like even as an automotive technician, right? There are times where there's things that you can ask a million technicians, they may not be able to figure it out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
AI can do that in seconds.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, I use AI like a personal assistant.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Same, I use it in my Google.
::Laura Alyn
Like, mm-hmm.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That's my new Google search.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. And that's the cool thing too, though, is that you get to see like all the possibilities or you could ask it like, like show me all the different options. Like what would the people opposing this say?
::Laura Alyn
then you can get into the minds of others too.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah
::Laura Alyn
And to understand like all the different perspectives, because like I was saying with religion, I agree with perspectives that every perspective is right. Like if you think you're right, you're probably right. It's just that other people can be right too. Like both can exist. You don't have to choose one or the other.
::Laura Alyn
Like everybody can be right in certain situations.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, 100%. And the thing is once you start indoctrinating and start forcing your agendas over others based on You just you can't. I mean, look, we live in a country of 50 states.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
All right. To expect Ohio to have the same stature as a state of like Montana. Come on You know, the same thing like you you can't have the same things going on in California that you'd have going on in like a state like West Virginia.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, all different types of people, all different types of communities, all different types of work ethics and attitudes and what you want to get out of life. And for some people that may be you know more of a Southern hospitality life, good for you. That doesn't work for everybody. you know This idea of like, well, we live in a Christian country. No, we don't. you know We live in a country that's dominant by you know white people.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No, we don't. We live in a country that is very much a melting pot of indigenous people, Asian people, Middle Eastern, Black, Caribbean, African,
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So we gotta take all of that into, kind of like you said, you could be right, I could be right, we could all be right, but guess what? Like, you're my neighbor and I live right next to you, so don't force your shit on me and I won't force my shit on you.
::Laura Alyn
Exactly. that's That's the key part. Like, if you do that, that's cool for you, but it doesn't mean it's going to work for me.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
e e
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You do you, boo.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um I was going to. OK, so I know that you have we were talking about this for the episode. You have a book that's coming out. um You have a podcast. I know you've worked on other stuff as well. Do you want to want to break that down?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
So these wonderful people, um of course, I'm going leave links and everything in the description for anybody that's lazy that doesn't want to start typing while listening.
::Laura Alyn
yeah
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Make it easier.
::Laura Alyn
For sure. and So I already talked about Grounded Spirits. and So that's the podcast that I've been doing for a long time. But the new podcast is Hila Radio. I'm like 20 episodes in.
::Laura Alyn
And that one is looking at what kind of what we've been talking about today, intuition and reason and how people can distinguish like what they know and how astrology plays into it, how their career path plays into it. It's like a bunch of different things, but it's it's a cool, um cool show.
::Laura Alyn
And then um i have a lot of guided journals out right now where if you want to start learning about yourself, wanting to start diving in um I break it down really easily. So like even like parts that are traumatic for you that you may not want to revisit, it like breaks it down easily are like little by little so that it's not like just supposed to like hit you with all you like your trauma
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Little bites.
::Laura Alyn
um Yeah, a little bites. I call them rounds. So there's like these little like mini rounds so that you can go through it again again.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
e
::Laura Alyn
um and then...
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Round two! Ding ding ding ding ding!
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, exactly.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
e
::Laura Alyn
and And then I also have ah dream journals. So if you want to get better at dreaming, um those journals are pretty good to get you to this lucid state where the way that we interact with our lives in like the real world and like the waking world, we sometimes we can't say the thing that we want to say like because like for fear of danger, like how you were talking about earlier like with the AIDS epidemic, like they couldn't um like be their their true selves because of what was going on at that time where people were getting killed for it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
No.
::Laura Alyn
But in your dreams, you're not going to have that that pushback.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, literally.
::Laura Alyn
In your dreams, you can do this thing. So by living it out in your dreams, then something shifts in your real world. Like, I don't know, like all the mechanics, like that's not like, you know, like that's like more consciousness level.
::Laura Alyn
But I do know that by working on your dream life, your real life gets better. So i have some books on that. And
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. I think that's um i think it's really great. It's a great place for people that are looking for more insight and more of a deeper understanding. Again, you know this idea of being able to look at all alternative ways of healing is really important, and there's just so many avenues. And I think you're you're doing a really, really good job at that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you've been doing this since: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I need ah I need to get out there. You know, I need to speak my, my, my truth, man.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, that's how it started. I just needed an outlet. And it just kind of spiraled from there.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Do you see yourself now more as a podcaster or more as a scientist? Or do you see both of those things kind of mesh together?
::Laura Alyn
I say both mesh together because for the longest, i was like, I can't be an academic anymore because I'm too spiritual.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
And like, they're never going to accept the spirituality. And so but now I'm like, even in like my PhD classes, i talk about like the stuff that I was talking about today. And like, I'm like so much more comfortable with it. So I feel like it had to do like a lot of like my own rewiring and like feeling safe and like my nervous system, like resetting.
::Laura Alyn
So that I'm not in this like fight or flight survival mode where like if I say the wrong thing, everyone's going to hate me and I'm not going to have any friends like stuff like that, like that would go on in my head, like in high school and stuff. Whereas now I'm like, if they don't like me, that's cool. Like there's other people that will and that will resonate with my work.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, and you know, ah a great example of this recently is like with ah the Surgeon General, where you have somebody that also went through the medical field and decided to take a more alternative approach.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
You know, but obviously, there's been a lot of hate like, oh, you you know, you didn't get the residency, yada, yada, not fully licensed as a professional and all that crap. But I think that shows you something. Because if you have somebody like that in a high position like that, that just like you, went through the schooling, went through the expertise, you know figuring out alternative ways, like especially writing is a great way of doing that because you then allow people to have a more way of getting that information from you directly.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And you don't need people to agree with you. You know... The type of expertise, you know, the type of work that you're trying to go towards. And if something doesn't line up with what you want to do, why the hell would you want to do it?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Right. like Why the hell would you want to do it? That feels just so. Wrong. I don't know.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, but so many people do like they force themselves like, oh, this is what I have to do. So I'm going to do it. But it's like, no, like, I'm in I'm in this like period of my life right now where I'm not forcing myself to do anything. Like if I don't want to reach out to somebody, if I don't want talk to somebody, I'm not going to do I'm not going to force myself.
::Laura Alyn
Or like, if I don't want to do whatever kind of work, I'm not going to do it. I'm just I'm in this place where I'm only going to do things from that come from my heart and the right people will find it. And I have to like truly believe that.
::Laura Alyn
And it's already kind of been in the process of it that... by by like letting go of all of these like limiting beliefs of I can't be both I can't I can't love the spiritual stuff and the academic stuff or the podcasting stuff and my artistic side like I'm I'm done limiting myself and the cool thing about it is like all humans are multi-dimensional so if you don't like this part of me there's probably another part that you will like And same thing goes for everybody else. Like if there's a part I don't like about this person, then there's probably something about them that I will like or that I can resonate with, regardless of politics or gender or any of the other like demographic stuff.
::Laura Alyn
Like, we're all just human at the end of the day. So we're all one in the same at the end of the day.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um A hundred percent. And you know what, to your point, like I was telling early i telling you earlier about that couple that I know of in Brooklyn. they I'm a libertarian and they're liberals and you know they lean more in a different direction than I do. But guess what? We're all artsy.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
We all grew up in a cult community. We share so much similarities and they're some of the best people that... I've talked about my gay traumas, because you know, somebody that grew up in a community where like, you don't talk about it, you don't mention it to your family members, otherwise you get cut out.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
it's It's great. eat Like who cares that we have different political beliefs? Like there's still wonderful people that I connect with. And it's like the same thing with you. It's like, who cares if you didn't like move your profession and sitting in a stale office in a lab?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
for eight, sometimes nine hours a day. Like, Jesus, like, at least you're doing something, you know, like being able to podcast for freaking five years, five years, which most people don't even, yeah, which most people don't even make it a year, let alone even 10 episodes.
::Laura Alyn
It's been longest job.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah, like I was a teacher before. And even as a teacher, I would just I would kind of jump from grade to grade and school to school. Because I just like I said, I've always loved everything. But like Grind Your Spirits has been the only thing that I've done consistently every single week for five years, except for with this whole um fire stuff.
::Laura Alyn
That's where i used to record out in the wilderness. And so with the LA fires, like that part in the wilderness, like burned down.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Oh, shit. Did you get hit?
::Laura Alyn
um it was like the, where I recorded something, of not my home. Like I'm fine um with the the house, but like being out in nature to record the episode, every episode, and then to have that like be taken away.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ah thank God. Oh, thank God. Mmm.
::Laura Alyn
Cause now it's like boarded up. Like you can't even go in there at all. Like I've tried. And so like that was really hard. So like, I went on like on this hiatus. So if you go look at it now, like there aren't episodes, but I just recorded one.
::Laura Alyn
And so it's going to come out on Friday and it'll keep it'll come back up after that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah, and you also have your other show, um which, like you said, you so um you started pretty recently. um
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. Yeah. So Grounded Spirits is ah is a solo one. So I just it's just me talking about the different um aspects of dreaming and gardening. um Whereas Ila Radio, I have somebody on and we get to talk about their astrology, their life journey, how they interact with intuition and reason. And yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I love that. You know, and being able to be in nature is just so key because um I did live in L.A. for a short period. i just I remember like even dealing with Santa Monica traffic and just be like, you know what? I'm going to take the long way up to the valley. to go through Topanga Canyon.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
That was literally I love Topanga Canyon, just going up that mountain, just going around the
::Laura Alyn
I love that.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
where you feel like it's the: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um And that honestly, like i I've had people i had somebody out on that was also like affected with the fires and stuff. And it's really hard because then it kind of limits, you know, you being able to get out of that space, go into that headspace when you need to.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah.
::Laura Alyn
Definitely. um But I feel like everything has like a silver lining. And so if I had never if that had had it happen, now I go to parks.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
yeah
::Laura Alyn
And seeing like parks and like hanging out and like in the grass is like a completely different feel than like being out in the wilderness where you would like I would see like wolves and deer and like, you know, um But like being at a park, like being able to just like connect with like the trees around and like seeing like the different people coming.
::Laura Alyn
Because over there it was just me by myself in the wilderness. But like now being like with the wolves, whereas now it's like with people and like interacting that way and like forming connections that way.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
With the wolves.
::Laura Alyn
So it's been it's been cool to experience that. uh like a different kind of nature so I feel like before it was like way out there and like now I'm like coming into like more society with nature and like how to bridge them so it's always like every every bad thing always leads to more good things so I think that's something to to allow yourself but like obviously I was devastated obviously I cried so like it's also about letting your your feelings come out when they need to come out and not trying to stifle them
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
t hosts since I started since: ::Lost in the Groove Podcast
And, you know, it's great to be solo, but like to your point, it's sometimes great to like have where you can talk with somebody else. You know, in your case, being able to give that expertise and hear somebody else's thought process and where their mind is going along this journey.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you You don't realize how much control you have in your life, whereas you are the one that's deciding your course. you know Even if, for example, you have a partner, you know the end of the day, like you can ask somebody for help for every little thing, but are you going to ask yourself for help when you need you know when you need to make a tough decision? Because nobody's really going to hold your hand.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
They're really not. you know I'm not trying to be like the negative Nancy, but it's true. You have to be able to hold your own hand so that if you do have somebody, they can respect you for that and can be there for you when the time is needed.
::Laura Alyn
But I think like even in a marriage, like I've been married for five years and like I could do everything for my husband or my husband could do everything for me. But like that also like takes away like our own like humanness, you know, like you have to your own personality.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Personality, yeah.
::Laura Alyn
like you still need to like be your own person and you still need to um like make your own decisions and take your own actions. Like no one no one can force you to get out of bed.
::Laura Alyn
Even if they love you, even if they they could bring you food, you know, like you could.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
no
::Laura Alyn
But if you're going to be in bed all day, like eventually, you know, like you're going to have to get up.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Otherwise, a day is going to end and then you're just, whoa.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
oh God. how um my God. i have to say, though, like we've covered a lot of different things. But one thing I really appreciate is you like honestly breaking down everything so we can get like more of a deeper underlying understanding of like not only what consciousness is, not only what mental health is, but.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Really having a realistic ideology of it, like not trying to be like, oh, it's apocalypse now, you know, we're doomed. i think we have a lot more hope than we give ourselves.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
I really do. And I think you really pointed that out really genuinely and honestly.
::Laura Alyn
Yeah. Thank you. That's, that's what i I hope to do. Like I, that's like my, my dream, like moving forward. I really want to create stories, whether they're real or fiction. Like I want like every single thing and body to have a voice and to share their story. So like,
::Laura Alyn
Like anything. So like with um' I'm working on it's called Bella Spree Productions. And so Bella is this little caterpillar that then when she would tell everybody that she's going to be a butterfly one day and everyone's like, no like, why would you think you're going to be a butterfly? You're like a little worm.
::Laura Alyn
And then she ends up doing it and then when she comes out she's Belle Esprit. And I really want to create like more stories like that too. And like now she's want to do like a little series. These are all just ideas but like a little series where she like goes to like um a rose who is ashamed of her thorns because no one wants to hang out with her because she has these thorns even though she's so beautiful.
::Laura Alyn
And I just want her to like go around and just like drop hope to everybody. So like, that's what I've been working on right now um to start that up and do like this like little mini series on and like Instagram or like maybe like little YouTubes. i don't really know. But um just to like share more hope and more inspiration for people to see that like you're not alone and you're not in the dark.
::Laura Alyn
I mean, you are in the dark probably, but you're not alone and you can get out of that darkness. Because, yeah, like I have been through a lot of dark periods lately. um in my life and even in the darkest points where you kind of think like what's the point like might as well just end it like there's always something ah right around the corner that you would miss if you did so that's like what I really want do
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's so important. And I think it touches into where you're not living for anyone else. You know, I'll be honest with you, like even talk even touching on that topic, there are especially where I come from, people that have left the community.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
There's a lot of suicide. There's a lot. And, you know, life is not easy. But you when you make things bigger than they need to be and just focus on one thing at a time, you know, whether that mean getting comfortable and going out on dates with people or maybe if you're something artistic and try to explore that, maybe try to find somewhere locally where they have artist groups, you know, where they're doing their painting painting.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
you know You know those nights where you go out for like Tuesdays you get like a glass of wine and you start to paint?
::Laura Alyn
Yeah.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Those are the things that keep us alive. And that's the reason why you should stay alive. It's for you. It's not for anybody else.
::Laura Alyn
who And to find what brings you joy. I think that that's the point of life is like, what brings me joy and how can I do more of that?
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Yes. Very much so. Very much so. ah Oh, my God. Well, listen, Laura, it has been an absolute pleasure. Like I said, I'm going to make sure to put your links.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um I know for your podcast, there's a Spotify link. I'm going to put that also down below so people can find Ilya Radio. And um again, thank you so much for this. Like, you've made my Saturday.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
ah i hope I made yours, too.
::Laura Alyn
Thank you so much. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, thank you so much. Great way to start it.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
um My pleasure. Well, to listen to anybody out there, if you want to check out more of the pod, you can find us Lost in the Groove everywhere and anywhere. And we're on Rumble and we are now on Substack. So you want to check that out, um it's going to be available. So we'll catch you on the next one.
::Lost in the Groove Podcast
Peace out. Yeah.
